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So because leech saliva contains some chemicals that might be beneficial for a few medical conditions, you think bloodletting is a legitimate medical practice?

If bloodletting works for certain things it ABSOLUTELY IS LEGITIMATE for what it works for.

I'm sure you'll be cutting yourself right open next time you have an upper respiratory infection.

Would you take antibiotics to treat knife wound? I wonder if that means they're useless.
 
I hear they give cucumber facials and even pedicures every Tuesday:eek:
 
Kind of an off topic story here, but I think it's a decent anecdote to the discussion about how much we think we have things figured out relative to how much we actually do.

When I was a little kid, 8 or so, I was on vacation with my folks in Costa Rica. We were staying in one of the first real "eco" lodges on the at the time still remote Osa Peninsula. The place was situated on a hill and the gradient was pretty steep. The road leading to the place was crushed stone, and pretty jagged. As any little kid would do, I viewed the road as a good opportunity to see just how fast one could run downhill. Well, I built a pretty good head of steam, quickly couldn't keep up with my legs and completely ate sh*t. My right leg was skinned from my knee to lower shin. Gnarly. So, what is the normal thought process for a pasty white family from the States? "Great, the idiot kid just opened up his knee and we're a long ways from any hospital." So my folks dragged my dumbass to the main area to see what kind of first aid they had there. Instead of neosporin, they had a dude who had grown up in the surrounding rainforest and acted basically as their nature consultant for the area. Dude checked out my knee, said no problem and disapeared off into the jungle. Fast forward an hour later and the guy comes back with a few botanical items. He mashes them up into a paste, covers the wound, and instructs us not to bandage nor touch it. I woke up the next morning with a full scab formed. Another day later the scab began to fall off and within two additional days it was completely healed without a shred of scarring. To this day I've never heard of anything like it, and personally, I think it's best that this little mix hasn't been discovered by Pfizer yet. There's still so much we have yet to learn in our brief little dance with sentience, and I'm always cautious to dismiss things so quickly.
 
Kind of an off topic story here, but I think it's a decent anecdote to the discussion about how much we think we have things figured out relative to how much we actually do.

When I was a little kid, 8 or so, I was on vacation with my folks in Costa Rica. We were staying in one of the first real "eco" lodges on the at the time still remote Osa Peninsula. The place was situated on a hill and the gradient was pretty steep. The road leading to the place was crushed stone, and pretty jagged. As any little kid would do, I viewed the road as a good opportunity to see just how fast one could run downhill. Well, I built a pretty good head of steam, quickly couldn't keep up with my legs and completely ate sh*t. My right leg was skinned from my knee to lower shin. Gnarly. So, what is the normal thought process for a pasty white family from the States? "Great, the idiot kid just opened up his knee and we're a long ways from any hospital." So my folks dragged my dumbass to the main area to see what kind of first aid they had there. Instead of neosporin, they had a dude who had grown up in the surrounding rainforest and acted basically as their nature consultant for the area. Dude checked out my knee, said no problem and disapeared off into the jungle. Fast forward an hour later and the guy comes back with a few botanical items. He mashes them up into a paste, covers the wound, and instructs us not to bandage nor touch it. I woke up the next morning with a full scab formed. Another day later the scab began to fall off and within two additional days it was completely healed without a shred of scarring. To this day I've never heard of anything like it, and personally, I think it's best that this little mix hasn't been discovered by Pfizer yet. There's still so much we have yet to learn in our brief little dance with sentience, and I'm always cautious to dismiss things so quickly.

Various herbs are blocked from importation by the FDA and soon afterwards a pharmaceutical is released to treat the ailment the herb is commonly used for, at an exponentially higher price:mad:
 
Loved the article. Thanks.
Could tell this was straight from the heart, from a guy that's been through the wars.

Every time TB gets slammed by a 300 plus pound athlete, my entire body shudders. Can't imagine how he feels Mondays.
 
Kind of an off topic story here, but I think it's a decent anecdote to the discussion about how much we think we have things figured out relative to how much we actually do.

When I was a little kid, 8 or so, I was on vacation with my folks in Costa Rica. We were staying in one of the first real "eco" lodges on the at the time still remote Osa Peninsula. The place was situated on a hill and the gradient was pretty steep. The road leading to the place was crushed stone, and pretty jagged. As any little kid would do, I viewed the road as a good opportunity to see just how fast one could run downhill. Well, I built a pretty good head of steam, quickly couldn't keep up with my legs and completely ate sh*t. My right leg was skinned from my knee to lower shin. Gnarly. So, what is the normal thought process for a pasty white family from the States? "Great, the idiot kid just opened up his knee and we're a long ways from any hospital." So my folks dragged my dumbass to the main area to see what kind of first aid they had there. Instead of neosporin, they had a dude who had grown up in the surrounding rainforest and acted basically as their nature consultant for the area. Dude checked out my knee, said no problem and disapeared off into the jungle. Fast forward an hour later and the guy comes back with a few botanical items. He mashes them up into a paste, covers the wound, and instructs us not to bandage nor touch it. I woke up the next morning with a full scab formed. Another day later the scab began to fall off and within two additional days it was completely healed without a shred of scarring. To this day I've never heard of anything like it, and personally, I think it's best that this little mix hasn't been discovered by Pfizer yet. There's still so much we have yet to learn in our brief little dance with sentience, and I'm always cautious to dismiss things so quickly.

Obviously it was the placebo effect, because that botanical mash was not verified by almighty Western medical science. :rolleyes:
 
Interesting philosophical and scientific debate here. First, my usual position is from a science and engineering orientation that tends to eschew anecdotal evidence for controlled scientific trials. That works very well in areas where there are limited variables that can be controlled but does not produce the same quality of results in situations where there are myriad variables, some possibly unknown to the experimenters.

So in those complex situations I go from scientist to engineer. Engineers are pragmatic. What works, works and leave the underlying theory and proof of same to the PhD scientists.

In my life I mainly rely on the science of Western medicine but with a skeptical self-interest motivated attitude. I don't believe in the stated "theory" behind chiropractors and don't regularly go to them but in several instances when I had back problems addressed ineffectively by internists, etc. the chiropractor set me right. Same with sports injuries like with my knees. It worked each time and what's best was it beat the long recovery prognosis of standard medicine in each case. My wife found some good results from acupuncture for headaches untreatable for years by an array of specialists and not so much results for other conditions.

Bottom line, if it works for you and inflicts no unintended damages, use it. There's something to some unconventional approaches in some instances. Eyes wide open.
 
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Yep, guys just come to the weight room and just do bench press, shoulder press, Lats, and don't bother about lower body and core. They are the most important really. Support first I thought.

so true.

as someone who is studing to work in the fitness industry, and who currently works in a college campus gym, i see people who focus on the big three: chest, arms, and legs at the expense of their core, back, and hip flexors/extensors/adductors/abductors.

the results are a bunch of people who walk around with back problems because their posture is perpetually conditioned to remain in a protracted position due to everyday living and unbalanced resistance training exercises.

this puts a big strain on the lower back and the lack of attention paid to the hip muscles will lead to atrophy and range of motion and mobility problems in later years.
 
Pilates was invented as boxer training.

Acupuncture doesn't seem to have any effect aside from placebo but at least it is harmless.

As someone who has seen the wonders of acupuncture, I absolutely disagree with the statement that it has a placebo effect. I know of an acupuncturists that treats many Bruins players - their pain, their recovery, their energy, etc.
 
It actually HAS been quantified by proven scientific methods, in numerous clinical trials, and shown time and time again to not work better than placebo.

Sometimes placebos do work very well if accompanied by a good bedside manner and a confidence in a postive outcome. So go right ahead and do acupunture, throw salt over your shoulder, and sacrifice a first born goat. They are equivalently effective.

You are picking and choosing your studies....for every study showing that it does nothing, there is one that shows it does. Check to see who is funding the study. Merck? Johnson & Johnson?

I see the positive effects of accupuncture every week.
 
to step away from the merits of eastern medicine, can anyone explain how this exceptional workout regime that BB is lauded with implementing has caused this team to get completely bullied in the three most important games they've played since Feb 2008? They've simply been out muscled in the trenches, can't bring guys down and been at a severe physical disadvantage in general.

That has nothing to do with core strength, leg strength, muscle....whatever. That's attitude.
 
It's lasted 5,000 years because it became ingrained in Chinese culture, not because it's been proven to work. The placebo effect is incredibly easy to fool people with.

Bloodletting was used for 2,000 years. Are you going to ask for leeches next time you go to the doctor?


Why did it become "ingrained in Chinese culture"? Maybe because it works?
 
So because leech saliva contains some chemicals that might be beneficial for a few medical conditions, you think bloodletting is a legitimate medical practice?

I'm sure you'll be cutting yourself right open next time you have an upper respiratory infection.

Could you please stop commenting on issues you clearly don't know enough about? That way you don't have worry about "personal attacks" and we don't have to worry about the mods over-reacting???
 
You're the one who was disparaging the use of leeches. I was merely pointing out that leeches are, in fact, used in modern medicine. Maggots are, too, for that matter.

Maggots are used to each the dead flesh off of burn victims..
 
Great article. Kris Jenkins reveals himself to be a very intelligent man and not just a 360 lb slab of meat. I enjoyed the read very much, thanks for posting.
 
Did Jets fans have anything to say about Jenkins saying that he'd try to hurt people at the bottom of the piles? They seemed to have plenty to say when Bruschi said the same thing.
 
You are picking and choosing your studies....for every study showing that it does nothing, there is one that shows it does. Check to see who is funding the study. Merck? Johnson & Johnson?

I see the positive effects of accupuncture every week.

Good stuff, I had 2 thoughts regarding studies of acupuncture and other drugs:

1) It's generally difficult to do an objective test of acupuncture v. placebo, how can a person not know that you're sticking needles in them?

2) How many drugs are tested against a nocebo?
 
Pilates was invented as boxer training.

Acupuncture doesn't seem to have any effect aside from placebo but at least it is harmless.
completely uninformed quote! I have received treatments 3 times in twenty years as last resort for wrenching back pain, complete jumping jack success each time within 24 hrs.
The first time it took my ex-wife two weeks to convince me, the second time I thought maybe the first time was coincidence third time I knew better. Don't ask me how it works but it is amazing!
 
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