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let's hope so the Pats will play in UK too

i will be there of course
 
ayjackson said:
why is it ironic?

You're forgetting in your U S history of Pat Patriot's heroic role in The American Revolutionary War. Check the facts . . . Pat was everywhere during that struggle. Our friends the Brits are wonderfuly forgiving to Pat.
 
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I lived in Cambridge, MA in 1981-82.

I'd started to be interested in football a bit earlier. My first American friend was a Jets fan who explained to me all about Joe Namath (this was in the summer of 1969). Later, I remember watching a Rams game with a guy who had played in the backfield for UCLA (he was the friend and neighbour of the person I was visiting) and flying across the U.S. watching a play-off game (Rams-Eagles?) on the cabin screen of a World Airways jet.

I think the Patriots went 2-14 during the 1981 season (their home games were blacked out and they had zero appearances on Monday Night Football). Then they topped it off by using the number one pick in the draft on the immortal Ken Simms.

The run to the Superbowl under Raymond Berry confirmed the character of Patriot football for me -- years of futility with occasional blasts of glory, ending in humiliation. The Victor Kiam years diminished my enthusiasm but didn't lead me to switch teams.

Now look at us! The Krafts have made the Patriots an organization for anyone to be proud of.
 
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Patriotic said:
You're forgetting in your U S history of Pat Patriot's heroic role in The American Revolutionary War. Check the facts . . . Pat was everywhere during that struggle. Our friends the Brits are wonderfuly forgiving to Pat.

We are indeed very forgiving to Pat. Still, he brought us the game of Football, hot dogs, hamburgers, Metallica and Faith No More, so I guess he is excused. :D
 
I started taking an interest in NFL in the early 90's. I played in a local pub quiz league and a couple of my team-mates were always discussing the previous weekends games before the quiz got started (one was a Packers fan, the other the Chargers). They talked me round from my opinion that gridiron was rugby for ****ies and I started watching.
I chose the Pats for several reasons, their colours, the England bit (though I did realise that they were patriotic to the U.S. and not blighty). I also loved Cheers and Stephen King who sets a lot of his best work in New England. So there was only really one team for me.
Not the best choice at the time but it's paid dividends in the 21st century for sure.
I missed the Packers Superbowl as I was on holiday in Goa, India and try as I might couldn't find coverage anywhere :(
On the subject of forgiveness, I've been to India several times and have never had anything short of a warm welcome over there even though we had colonial rule over them until very recent times. Yet the French don't like us Brits much at all despite the fact that we've saved their asses in he past :confused:
 
Stron said:
...... Yet the French don't like us Brits much at all despite the fact that we've saved their asses in he past :confused:

Join the club.
 
shmessy said:
Join the club.

It (the French ambivalence to the British) might have something to do with the number of times that we HANDED their asses to them from the Middle Ages onwards (1066 notwithstanding). :D
 
gomezcat said:
It (the French ambivalence to the British) might have something to do with the number of times that we HANDED their asses to them from the Middle Ages onwards (1066 notwithstanding). :D

The Indianapolis Colts = France
 
Patriotic said:
You're forgetting in your U S history of Pat Patriot's heroic role in The American Revolutionary War. Check the facts . . . Pat was everywhere during that struggle. Our friends the Brits are wonderfuly forgiving to Pat.

well i could see how it could be irony to some....i believe irony is something that IS contrary to what you would EXPECT.....for me, I expected that New England would be the most popular NFL team in England for two reasons: name familiarity and team success during NFL popularity growth....i don't expect the average brit harbours much of a grudge for the tea party et al, though many do harbour grudges for political reasons that are not the domain of this forum.
 
Ah, yes, 1985. That autumn, I was actually in London on an exchange program at U. of L. Our dorm was a row house on Pembridge Gardens in Notting Hill Gate.

Your mentioning of the NFL on Channel 4 brings many memories of Sunday nights (I believe it was seven days after the fact) of the taped game of the week. I can still envision the opening segment each week had the Bonnie Tyler song "Holding out for a Hero" and then former Pats kicker John Smith and the announcer would comment on a game that edited out the huddles, OT's, etc. I think it was all packaged in an hour program. After the game, Smith would have a segment explaining a football rule.

It's hard to put in context the meaning of that show for slightly homesick 20 year olds to people today. There were no cell phones, no internet/e-mail, in fact there were no phones in our rowhouse. The only way to call home was to collect a lot of coins and go down to the corner red box phone booth on Bayswater Road (outside the Soviet Embassy - or Consulate, I forget - all I remember is that it was a Soviet Governement building and, in 1985, that was a very good conversation piece for my phone calls from that booth!) and try to get 10 or 12 minutes out of the money.

The NFL was pretty new to the UK then, but they seemed intrigued. The Fridge became a minor celebrity there after the following preseason's exhibition game at Wembley between the Bears and the Cowboys.

I identify with a lot of your post Shmessy - your very accurate memories of Channel 4 showing week-old highlight films - in the knowledge that, unless they were attempting to listen to live games on Armed Forces Radio (with really really poor reception), there was little chance that the viewers would already know the score - and I still love that Bonnie Tyler song. I also went to that American Bowl - the one time in my life that I've cheered the Cowboys. I then spent the 1986 season in Malaysia, where I would read week-old copies of the Daily Telegraph in the British Council to get the NFL scores. Couldn't afford to phone my parents every week for the score (not that they would have known) - the only exception being when I phoned them on Christmas Day and was told that the Pats had beaten Miami away to make the postseason again.

I then spent my first year of University in Notting Hill Gate - and went to at plenty of parties in Pembridge Gardens - my best friend had a room there.

Another feature of following the NFL in those days - the really weak merchandising. A UK manufacturer had the license to make very poor replica jerseys. Only a handful of teams were available - Cowboys, Redskins, 49ers, Dolphins, Raiders, Steelers. Bears and Pats jerseys and sweatshirts were rushed out in time for SB XX (my first Pats merchandise was a sweatshirt), Broncos the next year. You very occasionally saw someone who had been on holiday in Florida wearing a real replica Phins or Bucs jersey, I also had a friend with family in Seattle who had a very cool Largent jersey. I also owned a pair of red Pony NFL licensed trainers.

Another mid 80's memory - anyone else play Paydirt (football boardgame involving play calling and dice rolling, based on real life stats)? I had at least as much fun playing that as any Madden player gets these days.
 
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I used to play 'Paydirt', waspie. And I identify with the thing about the dreadful replica shirts. The Patriots 'replica' shirt I had back then was just red with a number 11 - didn't have the shoulder stripes or anything. Crap!

I did manage to get a decent sweatshirt though, with the helmet on it.

On the other hand, despite all our moaning about how hard it was to follow the NFL from afar back then, there was a really good monthly magazine, and the weekly 'First Down' newspaper.
 
waspie (UK) said:
thin, and the Brady fans who tend to be younger and who discovered the Pats between 2001 and 2003. There's probably a group

That me:D

I hope that you guys take me as a real fan:)
 
I hope that you guys take me as a real fan

As someone said over on ukpatriots this weekend, I've got no problems with people getting on a bandwagon, as long as they stay on.
 
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