Randy Moss Press Conference

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Wh... Wh.... WHAT??

If it bothers you THAT much, I'm sure there's plenty of room on the Randy Moss/ Vikings bandwagon

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Pretty juvenile comment. You're probably one of those guys that assumed Moss would have little impact on the offense in 07. I noticed most of those guys kept their mouths shut as the season wore on. Some of you need to except the fact that a lot of people don't feel this is a good trade. And the Moss bashing is just sad. The man was instrumental in providing one of the most amazing seasons we'll ever witness and now he's a bum? Wow - that's amazing. It will be interesting to see how some of you turn in Brady in a few years when his production starts to slow.

Moss put his family before the team - I dare any of you to say you would do different. And if you would, you need to rethink your life. He needed security in the last years of his career, you can't blame any player for looking for that. The problem with Moss is he handles situations like this very childishly, something everyone already knew. Randy seems to need more than a manager, it looks like he needs a life coach, or just someone to help him make better decisions. He'd still be here had he handled things a little differently. Ironically, he was never the cancer that many of you feared he would be, but you still can't stop making him out to be that guy.

Teenuh said:

I will be rooting for a Pat. Moss will always be a Patriot to many of us and I'm guessing you will see a lot of Moss jerseys in the stands.

Personally, i think losing this game is exactly what we deserve in this case.

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I don't agree with everything that you're saying, but I do agree that liking Moss and disliking the trade doesn't disqualify you from being a Pats fan. It's always funny to see this reaction when a guy gets traded. If anyone of us even suggest that we're sad to see the guy go and we wish the trade hadn't happened, someone will invariably say "well go be a (Team X) fan now! Bye!" It's stupid and pointless.

I'm going to continue to be a Moss fan, because he was a kickass Patriot and he's one of my favorite players as a result. I know some people are fine with rooting for the laundry, but I'm not one of them. I root for the players too, in addition to the laundry. I still root for Vrabel and Seymour, and if Brady or Faulk or Welker ever leave, I'll continue to follow for them wherever they end up too. Same with Moss. Doesn't make me less of a Patriots fan, and if some of you think otherwise then you're wrong.

SmokeShowin said:

Drama Queen.

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Coming from a group of people that screams about the sky falling for the Pats after nearly every game the past two years, i find that kind of funny. And the one time I actually complain about something, I'm the drama queen. Nice hypocrisy.

BradyFTW! said:

I don't agree with everything that you're saying, but I do agree that liking Moss and disliking the trade doesn't disqualify you from being a Pats fan. It's always funny to see this reaction when a guy gets traded. If anyone of us even suggest that we're sad to see the guy go and we wish the trade hadn't happened, someone will invariably say "well go be a (Team X) fan now! Bye!" It's stupid and pointless.

I'm going to continue to be a Moss fan, because he was a kickass Patriot and he's one of my favorite players as a result. I know some people are fine with rooting for the laundry, but I'm not one of them. I root for the players too, in addition to the laundry. I still root for Vrabel and Seymour, and if Brady or Faulk or Welker ever leave, I'll continue to follow for them wherever they end up too. Same with Moss. Doesn't make me less of a Patriots fan, and if some of you think otherwise then you're wrong.

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Will you root for them when they play against the Patriots?

I still like Randy and will root for him against the Jets for various reasons. Vrabes, Seymour, Zant and a host of others ( except the kicker who is dead to me as long as he wears a Colts uni) I want to see do well except when it effects the Patriots in a negative way.

But to root for a player to score against the Patriots and his new team to beat the Patriots is a little off the wall, don't you think?

Brady_2_Moss said:

Moss put his family before the team - I dare any of you to say you would do different. And if you would, you need to rethink your life. He needed security in the last years of his career, you can't blame any player for looking for that. The problem with Moss is he handles situations like this very childishly, something everyone already knew. Randy seems to need more than a manager, it looks like he needs a life coach, or just someone to help him make better decisions. He'd still be here had he handled things a little differently. Ironically, he was never the cancer that many of you feared he would be, but you still can't stop making him out to be that guy.

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I'm pretty sure that New England was the first place Moss was ever truly happy. In a way I don't blame him for trying to preempt what he believe was coming to him. For as great as "the Patriot way" has been, I think it has sometimes been unnecessarily cruel in treating players like chess pieces. Moss has seen or know what happens to players who enter into disagreement with management.

I see Moss as someone who has amazing talent with an equal amount of dysfunctional behavior, something we've seen throughout history, and we have been tolerating the latter to get the most out of the former.

However, as disappointed as I was to see him go (and I think it is perhaps the most devastating trade of the BB era) I think it had to be done when it was done, and nipped in the bud before it got to the point of ripping apart the locker room. Unfortunately he is just not the type of individual to handle being in this type of situation, that everyone, even Brady, has to go through, at some point or another in their career, in terms of getting a new contract.

Teenuh said:

I will be rooting for a Pat. Moss will always be a Patriot to many of us and I'm guessing you will see a lot of Moss jerseys in the stands.

Personally, i think losing this game is exactly what we deserve in this case.

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I respectfully disagree that the Pats will lose this one to the Vikes just because the Pats don't have Moss. On this point we will have to agree to disagree. Nothing personal teenuh.

Ron Sellers said:

When I see phrases such as 'stabbed in the back', the first thing I think of is people who got passed over for a promotion and/or raise in pay.


As far as I know, the Pats never promised Moss a new contract beyond this season.

For 2010, Moss' contract and paycheck simply get moved from the New England Patriots to the Minnesota Vikings. In other words, he still earns exactly the same amount had he played the entire year in Foxboro.


How exactly is this a 'stab in the back'?

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Teenuh said:

Why did he seem so happy after the Bills game? He was in a great mood during the game and during the press conference after it was over. I'm betting someone told him it would work out.

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Okay, let me get this right.

You are now saying that after the Bills game the Pats promised him an extension, and a couple weeks later they changed their minds and decided to get rid of him?

PATSNUTme said:

But to root for a player to score against the Patriots and his new team to beat the Patriots is a little off the wall, don't you think?

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Actually, i remember last year after the Colts enraged a lot of their fans by quitting on their chance to have a perfect regular season, a lot of of their fans were talking about they thought the Colts should lose to the Jets (the team they let into the playoffs when they decided to sit their starters) in the playoffs.

Sometimes, its about people getting what they deserve. Its a karma thing. I'm not saying I want us to fail to get into the playoffs or anything, even though i think we probably will. I just think Moss should get his revenge in this game and make a statement to kraft.

Teenuh said:

Coming from a group of people that screams about the sky falling for the Pats after nearly every game the past two years, i find that kind of funny. And the one time I actually complain about something, I'm the drama queen. Nice hypocrisy.

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I was effin with ya, hence the smiley.

I would have loved to see him stay, but he's been traded. He was an awesome Patriot and I wish him the best with the rest of his career.

Ron Sellers said:

Okay, let me get this right.

You are now saying that after the Bills game the Pats promised him an extension, and a couple weeks later they changed their minds and decided to get rid of him?

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No, I'm saying I think someone may have given him the impression that he was going to get his extension. Unless you can think of another explanation for this series of events.

Teenuh said:

Actually, i remember last year after the Colts enraged a lot of their fans by quitting on their chance to have a perfect regular season, a lot of of their fans were talking about they thought the Colts should lose to the Jets (the team they let into the playoffs when they decided to sit their starters) in the playoffs.

Sometimes, its about people getting what they deserve. Its a karma thing. I'm not saying I want us to fail to get into the playoffs or anything, even though i think we probably will. I just think Moss should get his revenge in this game and make a statement to kraft.

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Do you know what Moss wanted?

Are you saying the Pats should have paid Moss whatever it was he wanted, regardless of what the new CBA and cap may be?


To me that kind of thinking is rewarding players for past performance and not caring about whether or not the team is competitive in the future.

Hand over a blank check based on past performance? Yeah, let's do it!

Ron Sellers said:

Okay, let me get this right.

You are now saying that after the Bills game the Pats promised him an extension, and a couple weeks later they changed their minds and decided to get rid of him?

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Teenuh said:

No, I'm saying I think someone may have given him the impression that he was going to get his extension. Unless you can think of another explanation for this series of events.

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Based on last year's comments, the comments after the Bengals game, and the reports after the Miami game, personally I am under the impression that nobody ever gave Moss any indication that he would be extended. But hey, that's just me and my personal opinion. Pure speculation.

Teenuh said:

Actually, i remember last year after the Colts enraged a lot of their fans by quitting on their chance to have a perfect regular season, a lot of of their fans were talking about they thought the Colts should lose to the Jets (the team they let into the playoffs when they decided to sit their starters) in the playoffs.

Sometimes, its about people getting what they deserve. Its a karma thing. I'm not saying I want us to fail to get into the playoffs or anything, even though i think we probably will. I just think Moss should get his revenge in this game and make a statement to kraft.

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Yes, because Kraft makes all the decisions about personnel and what to pay them. BB (the guy whom Moss thanked profusely today) doesn't at all. Gee, I never knew it worked that way when everything I've read and heard over he past few years says exactly the opposite. Got it, thanks for the inside story.

Please, Teenuh, it was an amicable divorce with neither party complaining. Did Randy want to stay? Looks like it. But he also understands that it's a business and he wanted something the team couldn't give him given the direction they want to go in.

You're looking for a villain when the two parties are not. It's like you're the child of an amicable divorce who is having trouble coping. Get over it.

If you can't, then just keep blaming Kraft for all those 'lost opportunities' at other Super Bowls. I'm guessing you weren't around for the pre-Kraft-zero-championship 34 years so you probably have no real historical perspective on how lucky we are that this guy owns the team.

I hope the stadium rocks with cheers for Randy before the game on the 30th - - he deserves it and remains one of my favorite Patriots over the past decades. In both parties' minds, it was just time to go in a different direction.

Oh good, another Teenuh thread.

Patjew said:

Oh good, another Teenuh thread.

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I heart you.

Why does he decide to stop talking about contracts after he gets traded? Did he just put his foot in his mouth?

Brady_2_Moss said:

Pretty juvenile comment. You're probably one of those guys that assumed Moss would have little impact on the offense in 07. I noticed most of those guys kept their mouths shut as the season wore on. Some of you need to except the fact that a lot of people don't feel this is a good trade. And the Moss bashing is just sad. The man was instrumental in providing one of the most amazing seasons we'll ever witness and now he's a bum? Wow - that's amazing. It will be interesting to see how some of you turn in Brady in a few years when his production starts to slow.

Moss put his family before the team - I dare any of you to say you would do different. And if you would, you need to rethink your life. He needed security in the last years of his career, you can't blame any player for looking for that. The problem with Moss is he handles situations like this very childishly, something everyone already knew. Randy seems to need more than a manager, it looks like he needs a life coach, or just someone to help him make better decisions. He'd still be here had he handled things a little differently. Ironically, he was never the cancer that many of you feared he would be, but you still can't stop making him out to be that guy.

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Moss fired his last life coach, the guy who got him through his troubles in HS and into Marshall after ND bailed on him and out of Minnesota when he wanted his last contract and out of Oakland when he realized money can't buy you happiness and to a place where he could play in a stable team environment until he decided money was still his ultimate goal... Randy has made about $80M in his NFL career to date. His family wasn't in jeopardy. His ego remains there.

Bella*chick said:

I heart you.

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You know you're my hero. Actually most (mosst) of the ladies that post here are awesome.

MoLewisrocks said:

Moss fired his last life coach, the guy who got him through his troubles in HS and into Marshall after ND bailed on him and out of Minnesota when he wanted his last contract and out of Oakland when he realized money can't buy you happiness and to a place where he could play in a stable team environment until he decided money was still his ultimate goal... Randy has made about $80M in his NFL career to date. His family wasn't in jeopardy. His ego remains there.

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I didn't realise you spent time in the locker room.

Otherwise shut the hell up about his attitude/ego unless you have some link where a current Patriot employee said something about said attitude/ego.

Teenuh said:

No, I'm saying I think someone may have given him the impression that he was going to get his extension. Unless you can think of another explanation for this series of events.

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Yeah, he's self absorbed and delusional - which is the same reason he thought the way to get an extension here was to call the owner cheap and piss off his business partners and sponsors and hold a post game presser to whine about your hurt feelings supposedly for the last time after the first win of the season in a game many said we wouldn't win where the really big story beyond the win wasn't you but the slot receiver returning from an ACL catching 2 TD's in his first game since being injured...who had to wait 16 minutes to talk to the media while you rambled incoherently about your feelings... Mr. self absorbed caught 2 TD's in the Buffalo game so naturally he was beaming because that's all he ever cares about.


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