Do you want McGowan back?

Deus Irae said:

Did the four safeties the team already had at the top of the rotation all retire?

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BelichickFan said:

I hadn't seen this until it was linked on the Draft Board :

Pats make right move by swapping Boyer for Brown

"One head-shaking moment I witnessed came after the Patriots pummeled the Jets in November. During that game, Patriots left tackle Mark Levoir destroyed Donald Strickland with a kickout block on a screen.

After the game, as Levoir was walking through the locker room peeling off tape, safety Brandon McGowan barked, "Hey, what the [freak] is wrong with you, Levoir?" Levoir looked at him confused. McGowan said the shot on Strickland was unnecessarily violent and would mark the Patriots DBs as targets now, too. Levoir looked completely taken aback. Then rookie corner Darius Butler - normally quiet as a church mouse - walked past McGowan and echoed McGowan's statements before ducking into the shower.

"Are you not supposed to hit defensive backs hard? Is that what they're pissed about?" I asked Levoir.

"I have no idea what that was all about," he answered."

Imagine Harrison doing that

Go away McGowan you little ****. I want to move forward with Meriweather, Chung and Sanders. McGowan can go and play touch football with some other team.

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upstater1 said:

Of course this entire article neglects the fact that McGowan put himself in harm's way to make more hard tackles than anyone when he played.

He hit with reckless abandon.

Is anyone here arguing that McGowan avoided contact?

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bucky said:

No. It's just that McGowan and Sanders combined for 0 INTs. Sanders actually has 1 INT and 0 forced fumbles over the 2 years combined. That's why I use the term UPGRADE.

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2009: $550,000, 2010: $730,000, 2011: Free Agent

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Deus Irae said:

Safety is not the problem and, while it could be upgraded, an upgrade is not needed. As for interceptions, Sanders is averaging 1 interception per season. Harrison had only 8 during his 6 year Patriots career, and just 7 forced fumbles. Wilson had 10 in 5 seasons but, then again, he was playing a different role, in the way that Meriweather (9 in 3 seasons) is now.

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RayClay said:

McGowan's play early in the year was more hustling and hard hitting than anyone on the team, quit looking for problems.

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BelichickFan said:

You either fix the lockerroom problems or you bury your head in the sand. Assuming the quote is true, this is not looking for problems - it's admitting to them.

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pats1 said:

-Bill Belichick

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RayClay said:

Were you in the locker room? No.

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BelichickFan said:

Curran was as while that doesn't guarantee it's accuracy, the brief interchange with LeVoir after the supposed incident seems to make it look real. But if you want to bury your head in the sand, that's fine.

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pats1 said:

"Brandon's done a good job for us. I thought that he was a good player for Chicago, and had a good career at Maine obviously. But a good career in Chicago but unfortunately missed some time. When he did play he played very well. He's a tough kid, he really is a good contact player with good speed, good range, he's instinctive. He makes plays in the kicking game; he's made plays on defense and both in the running game and in the passing game. Both in this preseason, and he made them with the Bears. So, I think he's a versatile player that brings a good competitive attitude and toughness to our team and to that position along with several other guys we have there, but that's something that we liked, and he's shown all that. I'm glad we have him."

-Bill Belichick

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BelichickFan said:

Next assignment - find a quote where Belichick slams a player.

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Bill Belichick said:

All he does is talk. He's terrible, and you can print that. I was happy when he was in the game.

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upstater1 said:

Of course this entire article neglects the fact that McGowan put himself in harm's way to make more hard tackles than anyone when he played.

He hit with reckless abandon.

Is anyone here arguing that McGowan avoided contact?

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bucky said:

That's a bullcrap excuse. Sanders plays in coverage on almost every single play that he's out there. Sometimes the ball hits him in the hands, but he can't hold on. But that's a rare occurrence because most of the time he's just not in position to get his hands on the ball. It's evident in his incredible low PD statistics - he's defended 13 passes in 5 years!


Comparing him to Harrison is just a complete joke. Harrison has 7 post-season INTs for the Patriots. Sanders has - I'll let you guess how many. Harrison had 9 sacks. Harrison also battled through multiple injuries and actually played less than 4 years' worth of games. What a ridiculous argument.

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BelichickFan said:

I don't care, Chung will hit just as hard as McGowan did. The last thing we need is some dude telling other on the team "you hit too hard". I could just see McGinnest saying that to Andruzzi after a screen pass back in 2004.

McGowan = part of the problem (assuming the quote was accurate).

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