OT: Stallworth to enter guilty plea for DUI

Pujo said:

If you take bambi and slam her into a wall, or drown her, you're going to have issues with Johnny Law. Just because society has decided that hunting and raising animals is OK doesn't mean that you can do anything you want to them.

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Society shows its stupidity and hypocrisy in many ways. This is just one of them.

letekro said:

My point is that it's darned light because there was just a 2% chance of conviction if carried through to trial.

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Blowing 0.125 on the breathalyzer, more than 50% over the legal limit, is widely accepted proof of intoxication. I think there were enough witnessess to determine he was driving (including his own testimony). So the fact that he was driving, and drunk, and in an accident, and that a man died in that accident are all indisputable facts. Nobody has to prove that being drunk was what caused the accident.

Fact is, going to trial is expensive. Florida jails are overcrowded. In Stallworth's case, he had no long record. The family of the dead man got what they wanted. It was a easy way to wrap it up and get it done at no added expense.

The added tidbit is a two year house arrest, which may affect his ability to play NFL football.

Sivy said:

he shouldnt have driven drunk, I dont give a crap about his bad luck. he killed someone, and it was his fault, no one elses.

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Amen I agree, he got off with a very very light sentence. He killed someone because he CHOSE to drink & drive. Hes a murderer, plain & simple!

i think it's easy for all of you who think what he did was fine and he shouldnt be punished to sit here and say that.. what if it was your significant other, your kid, who got killed, would you be thinking oh it's ok this guy driving drunk made a mistake and did what everyone does once and a while..

i got no sympathy for this guy.. someone is dead, granted he made a bad choice where he crossed but that doesnt mean he should be killed by someone driving drunk..

This is simple, money talks.. if you or i did this, we'd be in prison no doubt. The reason he pleaded is cause he knew he would be convicted.. you dont plead if you know your going to win.. that makes no sense..

I really wish we could see the Pats fan base here if Stallworth had signed a 3 year deal in 2007 and he was still on the roster.

I think some of those here who thought he got off easy and should have been dealt a much tougher punishment still as a member of the Cleveland Browns would change their thoughts a little.

Rather than go over all of this again and get PATSFANINPA upset with me again, I'll just link this thread to the earlier discussion on this issue:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/223533-donte-stallworth-may-get-cut-today-would-you-take-him-back.html

I doubt many opinions have changed since then, so this should save some time and effort.

Slightly OT but I wonder if this will will embolden Plaxico to NOT take a plea rationalizing, " He killed somebody and only got 30 days. I just shot myself and shouldn't serve any time."

Patsfanin Philly said:

Slightly OT but I wonder if this will will embolden Plaxico to NOT take a plea rationalizing, " He killed somebody and only got 30 days. I just shot myself and shouldn't serve any time."

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Burress is dealing with a putz of a mayor who thinks he was elected "tyrant for life". The real shame of these 'crimes' is that they aren't being used to shine the light on absurd laws, but are being used to complain about celebrities getting special treatment.

aurakilla said:

am i the only 1 confused by this story? vick kills a bunch of dogs and goes to jail for 2 years, stallworth kills a HUMAN, and gets 30 days and probation

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I'm only confused if I only read the headlines.

aurakilla said:

am i the only 1 confused by this story? vick kills a bunch of dogs and goes to jail for 2 years, stallworth kills a HUMAN, and gets 30 days and probation

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It's two different 'crimes' that happened in two different jurisdictions.

Deus Irae said:

It's two different 'crimes' that happened in two different jurisdictions.

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& dont' forget Donte, may he root in hell, Stallworth gave the family like 5 million bucks..

Deus Irae said:

Society shows its stupidity and hypocrisy in many ways. This is just one of them.

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By passing laws protecting animals, society makes it OK for me not to go and beat someone's ass for torturing something that most certainly feels pain. An animal can't defend itself against a human effectively, but I'd have no problem defending the animal with any force necessary. Luckily I don't have to.

Deus Irae said:

Rather than go over all of this again and get PATSFANINPA upset with me again, I'll just link this thread to the earlier discussion on this issue:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/223533-donte-stallworth-may-get-cut-today-would-you-take-him-back.html

I doubt many opinions have changed since then, so this should save some time and effort.

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While this was an issue discussed before as in the link you provided,the real truth about what happened had not been OFFICIALLY known yet so many who posted in that thread thought it was a mere accident and not involving alcohol at that time.

Once tests acknowledged it was because he was drunk it changed peoples minds..I am sure

PATRIOTSFANINPA said:

I really wish we could see the Pats fan base here if Stallworth had signed a 3 year deal in 2007 and he was still on the roster.

I think some of those here who thought he got off easy and should have been dealt a much tougher punishment still as a member of the Cleveland Browns would change their thoughts a little.

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You're right, they would. I wouldn't. If it was Tom Brady or anyone else, throw the book at him. Life's bigger than sports.

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

Blowing 0.125 on the breathalyzer, more than 50% over the legal limit, is widely accepted proof of intoxication. I think there were enough witnessess to determine he was driving (including his own testimony). So the fact that he was driving, and drunk, and in an accident, and that a man died in that accident are all indisputable facts. Nobody has to prove that being drunk was what caused the accident.

Fact is, going to trial is expensive. Florida jails are overcrowded. In Stallworth's case, he had no long record. The family of the dead man got what they wanted. It was a easy way to wrap it up and get it done at no added expense.

The added tidbit is a two year house arrest, which may affect his ability to play NFL football.

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You can still go to work when under house arrest.

PATRIOTSFANINPA said:

While this was an issue discussed before as in the link you provided,the real truth about what happened had not been OFFICIALLY known yet so many who posted in that thread thought it was a mere accident and not involving alcohol at that time.

Once tests acknowledged it was because he was drunk it changed peoples minds..I am sure

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I doubt it, especially because tests did no such thing. However, I'm not going to get into this with you again. I cited that thread to avoid doing just that, actually.

So, please don't take offense if I don't respond to you anymore on this subject. It's not meant as disrespect but, rather, as a decision to avoid the otherwise inevitable confrontation.

letekro said:

You can still go to work when under house arrest.

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I was just about to post that... So being that he will only be in jail for 30 days (county jail at that) do you think he'll be ready for the 09 season or will the league suspend him for a year...

mcsully said:

& dont' forget Donte, may he root in hell, Stallworth gave the family like 5 million bucks..

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3 Questions for you:

1.) If Stallworth had been completely sober when this all happened, would he have have been guilty of a crime?

2.) Was Stallworth's drinking the difference between the pedestrian being hit by Stallworth and the pedestrian NOT being hit by Stallworth?

3.) If you don't have sufficient actual information to answer those two questions and say "yes" beyond a reasonable doubt to at least one of them, why on Earth would you be hoping Stallworth rots in hell?