Jets' Thomas Jones throws Brett under the bus [merged]

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Wish he would've put the pressure on the coaches last week.

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Heard on the radio that a Jets CB said if Lord Favre wants to come back he needs to work out with the team and put the time in in weekly practise. Supposedly there were special exemptions for the elite Pro Bowl QB.

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The Pro Bowl is such a farce to have Brett Favre in it.

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I'm suprised more Jet players HAVEN'T dogged the craptacular Favre. Seemed like everybody else did what they could against the Dolphins to win except for Favre. He did turn over the ball twice in Dolphin territory killing what could have been scoring drives.

I'm surprised the Jets haven't come out and said they have no interest in resigning him, and let Favre hang in limbo all by himself.

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All of the top Jet veterans have come out expressing dis interest in retaining Favre.

Team MVP, Thomas Jones.
Laveranues Coles.
Jerricho Cotchery (although some say he was misquoted).
Team Captain, Kerry Rhodes.
"Veteran Anonoymous Player".

I loved watching Brett in Green Bay but after what happened at the end of this year I really hope he leaves my team so we can move foward from all the drama. I think Kellen Clemens could do just as good a job, if not better.

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Deus Irae said:

Then he should have opened his mouth after a game where he actually showed up to play.

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Nothing like not giving the Miami Defense any credit with comments like that.

Jones showed up to play more so than Favre. Favre did exactly what I predicted he would do at the beginning of the season. Choke when his team needed him the most. As he'd done in the 5 past seasons. Brett's instinct is to be a gunslinger. And that's what blew the game for them.

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KontradictioN said:

Not a lot of running backs can do much with 10 carries, especially not one like Jones. The way the Dolphins were stuffing the run, I don't blame the Jesters for putting in the electric Washington. Things can happen anytime he touches the ball whereas Jones is a between the tackles type runner who takes a little longer to get going.

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The problem with defending the "longer to get going" players is that players who can't get it going earlier hurt their teams by putting them in bad position. When your running back is getting 2 yards on first down, you put your quarterback under more pressure. That might be fine when you're looking at Tom Brady, but it's not so good when you're looking at most quarterbacks, especially injured quaterbacks.

Look, I know that people here like to bash Favre. It's fun for them, no matter how stupid it is. I understand that, because most people don't think before popping off, and they don't realize how hypocritical they are being. But, the reality is that Favre was playing with an injured arm and there was nobody on the Jets' bench than an injured Brett Favre. The man is ancient by NFL standards and, even injured, the Jets had nothing better to put under center. Don't blame Favre for that, blame the front office that spent a ridiculous amount of money but didn't protect themselves against an injured quarterback.

And, as for Jones, he certainly wasn't calling out Coles when Favre's #1 receiver was pouting like a little girl and then struggling to get open all season long, along with the rest of that pathetic receiving corps. He also didn't talk about that overpriced offensive line, which got Favre sacked more often than he'd been sacked since 2000. Then again, his memory must be fairly short to have forgotten who put the Jets in position to make the playoffs in the first place by playing good/great football against the Patriots and Titans, so perhaps expecting him to hearken back almost a decade is too much.

I despise players who complain about teammates who try playing through injury. It's not up to the injured player to pull himself, it's up the the coach to make the move. Hell, if Favre had pulled himself, the complaints would be that he didn't suck it up and play through the pain. Blaming a fellow player in that situation is gutless, clueless and classless, and Jones should have known better. Then again, losers fix blame while winners fix problems.

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FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Piling on: Jets teammates unhappy with Favre

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Another player said Favre was an awkward fit from almost the moment the Jets traded for him on Aug. 6 and released Chad Pennington. Favre reportedly spent considerable time during the season in a private office near the equipment room rather than in the locker room.

"There was a lot of resentment in the room about him," the anonymous teammate told Newsday. "He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone."

Owner Woody Johnson has indicated he wants to see Favre back in 2009, but Jones' outburst is an indication that the quarterback has work to do on and off the field with his teammates if he plans to return next season.

On Monday, fourth-year safety Kerry Rhodes told the paper: "If he's dedicated and he wants to come back and do this, and do it the right way ... and be here when we're here in training camp and the minicamps and working out with us ... then I'm fine with it. But don't come back if it's going to be halfhearted or he doesn't want to put the time in with us."

And the issue may extend beyond the locker room as the Jets look for Mangini's replacement.

"I want (Favre) out of the building before I get there," one general manager told The Daily News in analyzing the thought process of prospective coaches. "He's finished. You can read Mangini's body language: 'We can't control him. He will not follow. He's undisciplined. Belligerent.'

"Why would any reasonable man even want him around if you are trying to get a fresh start?"

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Who ever hires the Rat, should have to take Favre too

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I don't think teammates should publically diss other teammates for any reason, but this is still a symptom of why Favre should just retire or the Jets should cut him. He clearly is not popular with his teammates and therefore cannot be a good team leader. I think he is done personally.

The guy got 17 of his 22 TDs in six games which are the only six games where he had 2 or more TDs. For those not good with math, that means he got 7 TDs in his other 10 games. And he can only blame the last five on his torn bicep. He also has more game where he threw multiple INTs (7) than multiple TDs (6). He really only had two really good games in Arizona and New England. The Arizona game was in large part due to the defense because 4 of the 6 TD drives he had started in Arizona territory. Even the Titans game, he had one costly INT and could have had about three more if Titan players didn't drop balls.

Seriously, the guy has become another TO with better PR. If what Favre has done and what other players say about him happened to anyone else, they would be reamed over the coals by the media. But because the media loves Favre, they give him a free pass. Seriously, if Marion Barber said the same thing about TO, the media would be calling for Jerry Jones to cut TO.

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Fact is...multiple, not one or two, Jets players are critical of Favre's elitism and lack of preparation. Secondly, observing The Annointed One on the field reveals a continuing penchant to improvise often leading to the spectacular...success AND more often failure, but washed over by the media rump swabs. Most of Favre's playoff runs this century have ended in massive INT fests. Contrast this to say Brady's ending performances and tell me how 'great' Favre is. He's a decidedly above avg NFL QB with a taste for the spectacular play, however it may turn out. It's all about him, NOT the team's success. Once away from a superior coach who can control him, he is a detriment.

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Jones was just on ESPN and says the quotes were taken out of context.. He was asked general questions about teammates not performing well, not specifically Brett.. The 'win as a team, lose as a team' comment also was not about Favre.. .. He says none of the questions specifically were about Favre other than the interceptions.. Is this spin? There are a lot of articles out there about the Jets not being happy with their quarterback and his interaction with the team..

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CMcCartney said:

Jones was just on ESPN and says the quotes were taken out of context.. He was asked general questions about teammates not performing well, not specifically Brett.. The 'win as a team, lose as a team' comment also was not about Favre.. .. He says none of the questions specifically were about Favre other than the interceptions.. Is this spin? There are a lot of articles out there about the Jets not being happy with their quarterback and his interaction with the team..

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Yes.... they are posting about it over at Ganggreen.com

Thomas Jones was just made a fool by Dana Jacobson - TheGangGreen.com Message Board

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Some of these comments are just... WOW:
ESPN - Thomas Jones says Brett Favre's play warranted benching

"If somebody is not playing well, they need to come out of the game," Thomas Jones told Hot 97 FM. "You're jeopardizing the whole team because you're having a bad day. To me, that's not fair to everybody else. You're not the only one on the team. So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it's just not [fair]."

"If he's dedicated and he wants to come back and do this, and do it the right way ... and be here when we're here in training camp and the minicamps and working out with us ... then I'm fine with it," Kerry Rhodes said. "But don't come back if it's going to be half-hearted or he doesn't want to put the time in with us."

A veteran Jets player, quoted anonymously by Newsday, described Favre as a "distant" teammate who, when at the Jets' practice facility, spent his down time away from teammates in an office specially designated for him.

"There was a lot of resentment in the room about him. He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone," the player told Newsday.

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Wow indeed.

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Thomas says that was taken out of context, that he wasn't referring to Favre, etc... There's already a thread on this in the NFL forum.

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It's not just Thomas. It references Rhodes and a few other players.

It appears there was a lot of bitter talk the entire season in the Jets' locker room about The Hero.

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Much as I can't stand Favre, the Jets (particularly the anonymous one) are looking like a bunch of whiny ****ies who don't have what it takes to get to the playoffs. I wonder if Jones knows how much the mere presence of Favre under center helped him get to the Pro Bowl?

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Fixit said:

Much as I can't stand Favre, the Jets (particularly the anonymous one) are looking like a bunch of whiny ****ies who don't have what it takes to get to the playoffs.

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Agreed, they are starting to sound like Chargers players and fans who whine and cry about everything. I guess that is what happens when you fail from over-inflated expectations...


By the way, a previous poster was right, the exact article is already in the NFL forum, so my apologies to all.

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just goes 2 show that if you dont show up 2 play on Sunday you'll here it from your teammates