The Final "Spygate" Scorecard?

Mooch · Dec 29, 2008

Someone can correct me on the math, but here's how I see it breaking down:

Belichick's Patriots Record Pre-Spygate (including playoffs): 104-40. .722 Winning Percentage

Belichick's Patriots Record Post-Spygate (including playoffs): 28-6. .824 Winning Percentage

Mangini's Jets Record Pre-Spygate (including playoff): 10-7. .588 Winning Percentage

Mangini's Jets Record Post-Spygate: 13-17. .433 Winning Percentage. FIRED.

Hey, Eric: How'd all THAT work out for you?

Watson's IQ · Dec 29, 2008

Yeah, I'm sure they're as closely correlated as your post implies.

Pujo · Dec 29, 2008

Mooch said:
Someone can correct me on the math, but here's how I see it breaking down:

Belichick's Patriots Record Pre-Spygate (including playoffs): 104-40. .722 Winning Percentage

Belichick's Patriots Record Post-Spygate (including playoffs): 28-6. .824 Winning Percentage

Mangini's Jets Record Pre-Spygate (including playoff): 10-7. .588 Winning Percentage

Mangini's Jets Record Post-Spygate: 13-17. .433 Winning Percentage. FIRED.

Hey, Eric: How'd all THAT work out for you?

I'm glad Mangini got his, but from a purely cause-and-effect point of view, it's likely that Mangini's record before & after had very little to do with Spygate.

Mooch · Dec 29, 2008

Never said they were correlated at all. Just pointing out the facts.

Watson's IQ · Dec 29, 2008

Mooch said:
Never said they were correlated at all. Just pointing out the facts.

Your post pretty much implies a correlation, or else why make it at all?

This would be of similar relevance:

Following Eric Mangini eating a turkey sub for lunch last Tuesday, the Pats are 1-0 (1.000) and the Jets are 0-1 (0.000). How'd that turkey sub work out for you, Eric?

FreeTedWilliams · Dec 29, 2008

Watson's IQ said:
Your post pretty much implies a correlation, or else why make it at all?

This would be of similar relevance:

Following Eric Mangini eating a turkey sub for lunch last Tuesday, the Pats are 1-0 (1.000) and the Jets are 0-1 (0.000). How'd that turkey sub work out for you, Eric?

Obviously Mangini has not been following Jarod's Subway diet, so it is not working out for him.

Watson's IQ · Dec 29, 2008

FreeTedWilliams said:
Obviously Mangini has not been following Jarod's Subway diet, so it is not working out for him.

Clearly not. Though with his diminished paycheck going forward, he may be forced to switch to Subway. Leaving New York might not be bad for his waistline (hopefully the reverse is true for CC Sabathia

)

JaxPats · Dec 29, 2008

FreeTedWilliams said:
Obviously Mangini has not been following Jarod's Subway diet, so it is not working out for him.

HAHAHAHA LMAO! Thanks.

I just pizzed all over my desk from laughing so hard. Good one!

maverick4 · Dec 29, 2008

The witch-hunt has been dispelled, the past two years prove the sideline video had little to no effect on helping out our amazing coaching machine. All teams can legally tape from the upper booths, just not the sidelines, so there really was no benefit from the supposed 'cheating'.

Wax Frog · Dec 29, 2008

Mooch said:
Never said they were correlated at all. Just pointing out the facts.

FWLIW, I took it in the proper spirit, as more evidence AGAINST the "Cheatriot" lie :singing:

PatsFan24 · Dec 30, 2008

yeah, i have to say im glad the pats won 3 of the 4 against the jets without the "cheating" camera, finished with a better record both seasons, and that BB got a new contract while mangini got canned. **** the green and white

Long Time Jets Fan · Dec 30, 2008

Not that I believe all this Spy Gate stuff, but just to play devils advocate.......

Belichick Pre Spy Gate - 3 Super Bowl Championships.

Belichick Post Spy gate - 0 Super Bowl championships.

NJPatsfan26 · Dec 30, 2008

Long Time Jets Fan said:
Not that I believe all this Spy Gate stuff, but just to play devils advocate.......

Belichick Pre Spy Gate - 3 Super Bowl Championships.

Belichick Post Spy gate - 0 Super Bowl championships.

Funny how Roger "Jets" Goodell has been the commish since 2006....

Imagine that.....

Long Time Jets Fan · Dec 30, 2008

NJPatsfan26 said:
Funny how Roger "Jets" Goodell has been the commish since 2006....

Imagine that.....

What does Roger Goodell have to do with anything? He wasn't on the field when the Giants drove down the field at the end of the Super Bowl last year, and he wasn't on the field when the Patriots wet themselves in the second half of the conference championship the year before.

NJPatsfan26 · Dec 30, 2008

Long Time Jets Fan said:
What does Roger Goodell have to do with anything? He wasn't on the field when the Giants drove down the field at the end of the Super Bowl last year, and he wasn't on the field when the Patriots wet themselves in the second half of the conference championship the year before.

True....just showing my hatred for the man.....

Pujo · Dec 30, 2008

Long Time Jets Fan said:
What does Roger Goodell have to do with anything? He wasn't on the field when the Giants drove down the field at the end of the Super Bowl last year, and he wasn't on the field when the Patriots wet themselves in the second half of the conference championship the year before.

Are you sure about that? Check that tape. With exactly 1:31 left to play, a dark figure appears for one, maybe two frames, at the bottom-left corner of the shot, on the field. Either that or it was a smudge on the lense, but I bet either way Goodell was involved.

Patriot_in_NY · Dec 30, 2008

Long Time Jets Fan said:
What does Roger Goodell have to do with anything? He wasn't on the field when the Giants drove down the field at the end of the Super Bowl last year, and he wasn't on the field when the Patriots wet themselves in the second half of the conference championship the year before.

But was he on the field when the Jets last won thier super bowl?............. oh wait, was he even alive then. :singing:

Long Time Jets Fan · Dec 30, 2008

Pujo said:
Are you sure about that? Check that tape. With exactly 1:31 left to play, a dark figure appears for one, maybe two frames, at the bottom-left corner of the shot, on the field. Either that or it was a smudge on the lense, but I bet either way Goodell was involved.

From everything I've read, it seems as if the commissioner was very fair with Belichick (maybe even too lenient), do you think otherwise?

Long Time Jets Fan · Dec 30, 2008

Patriot_in_NY said:
But was he on the field when the Jets last won thier super bowl?............. oh wait, was he even alive then. :singing:

I'm a Jets fan. Insults don't bother me.

Watson's IQ · Dec 30, 2008

Long Time Jets Fan said:
From everything I've read, it seems as if the commissioner was very fair with Belichick (maybe even too lenient), do you think otherwise?

I think that I can safely speak for most here by saying that yes, we think otherwise. Should that surprise you?

The Final "Spygate" Scorecard?

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