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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    I don't know so much with Rodgers, Favre definitely brings up an interesting point with me. That is, I typically rank him around 15 in my own rankings (not formula based), but if this were only about my observations, I wouldn't rank him in the top 30. When I do lists, even if they're supposed...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    @Deus Irae ... thoughts?
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Good points. I think if it were only about data, it would just begin in 1949 and have more of a flat-tax concept. The confidence problem, I think, is about data and other things too. -Beyond quanitfying the QB starts themselves, s the QB actually "the starter" and responsible for the offense...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    And to your point: perhaps an overadjustment was made. Unitas really took a tumble. From my perspective, I'd like to get more perspective on it. It would be hard to get into a deep argument about whether or not Luckman should surpass Unitas; I'd say confidently that he should not, and I...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    So here's what I'm trying to do with the "old timer" problem that comes up on a lot of these lists. There are three issues with the older players: 1. The pre-1950 data is incomplete, and the further back you go, the less reliable it gets. 2. The data itself has some problems; some of the QB...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Maybe the peak score setting is doing it's job. I don't want to make the rankings totally changed by overrewarding based on one peak season, but the changes that it led to, if you look at the peak score point differences: -Bigger gap between Rodgers and Favre -Staubach moves up It's good to...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    I made a whole bunch of updates to the formulas, and I'll write about them a little later, but here are the basics: Playoff differential rather than playoff win points. The reasoning behind this is that moderns are double dipping, as they already have the longevity advantage, and old timers...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Here is the list so far of peak score. It's a simple formula. Take the QB's passer rating for that year, subtract it from league average, multiply by 0.1. @BaconGrundleCandy This is more of a general gauge of how great each guy was at his peak, even if that was for one season. I'm not...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Lauren Tannehill is probably #1.
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Great stuff here. I should integrate these into the chart. It looks like Marino has the biggest discrepancy, as his DVOA is more favorable than PPG. Roethlisberger to a lesser degree. I'm curious what's being missed there; both of those guys are also lower in adjusted passer rating than...
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    Belichick criticism mega-thread

    I don't think I'd rank anyone over Belichick. What he has done in the expansion/salary cap era with at least three playoff rounds to further acid test dynasties, and keeping the band together for so long, is unique among this group. For peers, no one else has been able to sustain anything...
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    OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Yep...inside and outside is big. That’s why it’s hard to find a replacement. Even though Godwin and Brady searched all season for that connection, it got ugly when Godwin was injured. JJ Watt just got $15M. Barrett will get more, even though Watt can play 3-4 DE and dominate the run too...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Imagine that ranking system that values an extra 1,000 passing yards, 12 TD and a Comeback Player of the Year award over over tremendous defificts in championships, postseason success, regular season record, interception rate, passer rating, MVPs, Super Bowl MVPs, pro bowls and all-pros.

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