Report: Moss Restraining Order

[shmessy]

Re: Unsubstantiated Report: Moss Restraining Order

The story is back on wdbo's homepage. http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/in...With-Temporary-Restraining-Order__105029.html. It also states no criminal charges have been filed. Unless and until criminal charges are filed, whoop-de-damn-do. But the report is no longer unsubstantiated.

It's unsubstantiated until ANOTHER news outlet independently confirms that Randy Moss of the New England Patriots is the Randy Moss mentioned in it.

At this moment only ONE media source out of over 10,000 hungry, attention starved media outlets in America is reporting this as the truth.

I'm still waiting for the second to confirm. It's been over 14 hours since the report from WDBO came out.

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

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Well, that makes it a story.

Crap.

I wish we could know whether or not the judge issued the order. The original story referenced a Jan. 28 court date, which would suggest that the order did in fact issue, because a hearing has to be scheduled within 15 days.

 

[PantsB]

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Can you tell us why it is newsworthy when this is not a news site? Can you explain how this discussion will help the Patriots? Is it possible this discussion is detrimental the Patriots?

We don't care that you think discussing it might hurt the Patriots. Any discussion could hurt the Patriots. Complimenting the Patriots could hurt the Patriots because it makes "us against the world" tougher. Supporting them could do the same thing. Discussing records could be a distraction. Pointing out we won last week could be a distraction. Criticizing a player could hurt his confidence. Discussing strategy could help other teams.

If this message board mattered to anyone.

But it doesn't so rein yourself in.

 

[PatriotsReign]

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Dale and Holley are just now mentioning the story and D&C talking to the reporter this AM.

The story has been re-posted on the radio station web site. But there are inconsistencies with what it says and what she said this AM. She claimed to have talked to Moss' attorney who refused comment and also to have been unable to reach that attorney.

They said they will update any information as available. Sounds like a rational approach to me. Absent a date of offense that would potentially rule out the event in question, or a comment from the accuser, or any comment from Randy's representation, it is what it is - speculation based on information as yet not even verified. Could be the wrong Moss, could be a scam intended to leverage an NFL player for personal gain, could be a disgruntled girlfriend looking to get even, could be legit.

Our debating it here does nothing but feed hysteria. It's not up to us to get to the bottom of it . We're fans, we should have our players back until given verifiable reason not to.

Kinda reminds we of the time rumors about our HC's personal life were getting blown out of all proportion HERE based on something a poster ferreted out, and it lead to his being needlessly embarassed on a day when he was in California with his children to be honored nationally.

Thank you MoLewis! Finally a voice of sanity, reason & caution

 

[PonyExpress]

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It's unsubstantiated until ANOTHER news outlet independently confirms that Randy Moss of the New England Patriots is the Randy Moss mentioned in it.

At this moment only ONE media source out of over 10,000 hungry, attention starved media outlets in America is reporting this as the truth.

I'm still waiting for the second to confirm. It's been over 14 hours since the report from WDBO came out.

The affidavit lists Randy Gene Moss, 30 years old, height 6'4'' 210 lbs, resides in Boston MA.

 

[mikiemo83]

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Oh yeah? What position do you play?

crowd participant...leader of the vocal distortion brigade in charge of firing up the defense and keeping all quiet for the offense front

 

[zarakotas5]

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I gave a link to the direct case. If you went back to the home page and searched by name, you got 2 pages.

Aha, thanks. Jeez, Randy D. Moss can't stay out of trouble.

Only a handful that don't have a birthday or middle name listed. Could be one of them, or someone else, easily.

Interesting that one included a breach of contract between A Randy Moss and some sports company. Perhaps someone more interested could investigate to see if OUR Randy Moss was the guy.

FWIW: Chances are it isn't. If it is, there are three sides to every story.

 

[Pujo]

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It looks legit. Of course it doesn't mean it's true, but it's still going to be ammo once ESPN gets a hold of this.

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

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The affidavit lists the Randy Gene Moss, 30 years old, height 6'4'' 210 lbs, resides in Boston MA.

The complainant sure doesn't know much else about him, though.

To be "dating violence" under the Florida statute, it needs to be a long-term relationship of a sexual nature.

There should be an affidavit that she filed, which I assume is a public document just like the application.

 

[DaBruinz]

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How can the FACTS be "irresponsible garbage"? If you looked, it was obvious that they were not all the same Moss. That was my point, that this could easily be the wrong Moss.

Try taking responsibility for your posts, and stop worrying about others. Sheesh.

You should seriously do the same. While your "point" may have been that this could easily be the wrong Moss, you sure as hell didn't state or even imply it in the post referenced. The implication, as you wrote it, was that it was the same Moss.

Also, considering that the only link you provided charges people for viewing anything other than the link you provided, how could anyone go and look?

 

[blackglass3]

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AOL Sports is reporting it now. http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/01/16/patriots-randy-moss-hit-with-temporary-restraining-order/

 

[PantsB]

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Since its already gone to the next page here it is again. This is from the radio station's story now.


Height, weight, birthday and address all match our Moss.
However, there isn't a great deal of information. Not much evidence is required to get a restraining order hearing so this could be some crazy person filing it, a legit girlfriend without a legit beef, someone who is trying to effect the game or it could be legit. We don't know.

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To clarify my 2nd paragraph, all this information is something you could Google so while its clear who the target is, there's no evidence that the claim is legit since she clearly didn't know much personal information (which doesn't mean the claim isn't legit).

 

[shmessy]

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crowd participant...leader of the vocal distortion brigade in charge of firing up the defense and keeping all quiet for the offense front

LOL. If you play that position in the RCA Dome, you deserve a bonus. If you play that position in Gillette, you need to be replaced!

 

[zarakotas5]

Re: Unsubstantiated Report: Moss Restraining Order

The story is back on wdbo's homepage. http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/in...With-Temporary-Restraining-Order__105029.html. It also states no criminal charges have been filed. Unless and until criminal charges are filed, whoop-de-damn-do. But the report is no longer unsubstantiated.

Wow. Could a "police document" be any more vaguely filled-in?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

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Since its already gone to the next page here it is again. This is from the radio station's story now.

Height, weight, birthday and address all match our Moss.

However, there isn't a great deal of information. Not much evidence is required to get a restraining order hearing so this could be some crazy person filing it, a legit girlfriend without a legit beef, someone who is trying to effect the game or it could be legit. We don't know.

And, FWIW, all of which are available in dozens of places. Again, until I hear something coming out of Foxboro, I'm more inclined to believe the Aurora Faye Brady angle than the Moss did something wrong angle.

 

[Pujo]

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Wow. Could a "police document" be any more vaguely filled-in?

Yes, cops aren't known for dotting all their i's and crossing their t's. As long as it's filled out enough why would they care?

 

[Tommysgirl]

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I like the part where it says he caused serious injury and refused to allow her to seek medical attention. Has she been tied up since the bye week and just broke free? UGH. Sometimes I'm embarassed to be a woman. If there was any form of injury, even a scratch on her arm, there would be a police report or it would be noted in the affadavit.

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

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To clarify my 2nd paragraph, all this information is something you could Google so while its clear who the target is, there's no evidence that the claim is legit since she clearly didn't know much personal information (which doesn't mean the claim isn't legit).

Here's the way it works. In addition to this document, the complainant would also file something under oath -- usually an affidavit. I would then immediately be presented to a judge who would decide whether or not to issue the order. It is unclear whether an order was entered here, although I assume one was.

So just because she didn't fill out the defendant-information form with a lot of detail it doesn't mean her affidavit did not contain lots of detail. She would have had to answer many questions in order to get an order -- specifically, what happened, how it was she qualified for the "dating violence" statute, and why she thought she was in imminent danger. The judge would review all that.

An order may only be entered for 15 days if it is ex parte -- that is, if the defendant wasn't there to respond. That's the reason why a hearing is set within 15 days, to give the defendant a chance to appear. The initial report is consistent with that, saying there is a Jan 28 hearing. This would suggest the judge did enter the order and that there exists in the word an affidavit under oath saying bad things about our Randy.

 

[PatsSox363804]

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Come on guys it's obvious. Florida? the timing? the vaguely filled out report? It was Mercury Morris.

 

[Va_Pats_Fan]

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You should seriously do the same. While your "point" may have been that this could easily be the wrong Moss, you sure as hell didn't state or even imply it in the post referenced. The implication, as you wrote it, was that it was the same Moss.

Also, considering that the only link you provided charges people for viewing anything other than the link you provided, how could anyone go and look?

Excuse me for not dumbing it down enough for you. I didn't realize ppl needed explicit instructions to find a search button.

Next time I'll put it so you can understand...perhaps grade 5 reading comp level?