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Maroney

  • Yes I would pick Maroney he is a great back

    Votes: 55 26.2%
  • No I would not pick Maroney if I could pick again

    Votes: 52 24.8%
  • Undecided we have to wait and see if he gets better

    Votes: 99 47.1%
  • The O line is to blame

    Votes: 4 1.9%

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Exactly. The Maroney fan club and PR team love to cherry pick the stats. Whatever fits their argument. The kid is MEDIOCRE. Bottom line. He's a nice backup running back or the #2 guy in a 1-2 system. That's it. It's ok, fellas, you can still be a Pats fan and NOT be happy with the play of one or two players. It doesn't make you a bad fan. For cris sakes!


You keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. You think Maroney is mediocre, and have decided in less than 2 years, for whatever reason, that you disagree with BBs decision that Maroney is his #1 back. Most everyone else disagrees with you.
Why is it so difficult for you to accept that many people disagree with your opinion? Why do you feel it is necessary to keep stating the exact same opinion over and over and over again?

Why do I feel Danny88 and NSA are the same guy with 2 user IDs?
 
Perhaps you could have a productive argument and people may actually be open to your opinions if you didn't act like an @sshole while writing them.
First, you repeat the same sentences over and over again. That is annoying. Do you think that if you say the exact same thing 50 times someone is more likely to agree?
Secondly, you consistently insult anyone who disagrees with your opinion in the middle of giving it.
Do you honestly think it is productive to discuss something by labeling anyone who has a different viewpoint than you a 'kool aid swilling homer'?
It is ignorant.
Finally, you find it necessary to tell everyone how right you are in each of your posts. "Our opinions have always been valid".
If you think you are correct, why would you insist on:
1) Repeating the same exact sentence numerous times
2) Saying that there is something wrong with anyone who disagrees with you. (Hint here someone who is right makes their argument rather than saying you are stupid if you dont agree with me)
3) Insist on telling everyone you are right.

There was a guy on this board, NEM, who 90% of the posters felt was an annoying jerk. Not because he was necessarily a bad guy, but because the way he posted was insulting, rude and ignorant. People ultimately either fought with him or gave up reading.
His typical post was:
"Charlie Weis sucks. I could do a better job than him, and everyone of you knows it. I am right, everyone else is wrong, and FU if you can't see what I see"
This is what you are becoming.
Whether or not your argument is any good, is overwhelmed by the fact that you appear to be trying to be an insulting jerk.

Do what you want. Perhaps you enjoy having people think you are a jerk. But if you really want to have a reasonable discussion, drop these lame tactics, and stop thinking that getting off a good insult on someone means you made a point in the argument.

How come I haven't seen you say anything to DaBruinz and a bunch of other posters who call Danny88 and myself morons, idiots, ***clowns, ******ed, etc...? You come down on danny88 because he doesn't like your boy Maroney, but you don't say anything in public to DaBruinz, who far and away has been the most insultful and rude poster on the Maroney topic? Puhleaze.
 
HellifIknow... where I come from NSA is No Such Agency
 
You keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. You think Maroney is mediocre, and have decided in less than 2 years, for whatever reason, that you disagree with BBs decision that Maroney is his #1 back. Most everyone else disagrees with you.
Why is it so difficult for you to accept that many people disagree with your opinion? Why do you feel it is necessary to keep stating the exact same opinion over and over and over again?

Why do I feel Danny88 and NSA are the same guy with 2 user IDs?

Same guy? There is a thing called IP address. Look it up. Wow, this site is unreal.
 
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How come I haven't seen you say anything to DaBruinz and a bunch of other posters who call Danny88 and myself morons, idiots, ***clowns, ******ed, etc...? You come down on danny88 because he doesn't like your boy Maroney, but you don't say anything in public to DaBruinz, who far and away has been the most insultful and rude poster on the Maroney topic? Puhleaze.

Right on the money NSA. I get warned. I get insulted. Threads started about me by MODS to insult me. All because I think Maroney is a dissapointment.

How many times have posters said all I do is start threads about Maroney , when the last time I actually started one was the glass thread a month ago. The say the same about you , which is false.

Guess you cant participate in the Maroney discussion unless you think he is the greatest pick we ever made.

Same thing happens with you. You post your opinion and people insult you , and the mods let it all go , and act like we are the ones who act childish.
 
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Right on the money NSA. I get warned. I get insulted. Threads started about me by MODS to insult me. All because I think Maroney is a dissapointment.

How many times have posters said all I do is start threads about Maroney , when the last time I actually started one was the glass thread a month ago. The say the same about you , which is false.

Guess you cant participate in the Maroney discussion unless you think he is the greatest pick we ever made.

Same thing happens with you. You post your opinion and people insult you , and the mods let it all go , and act like we are the ones who act childish.

Exactly. It's called freedom of speech. I thought message boards were to state your opinions. It's ok for so and so to say we are the greatest team, but it's not ok for guys like us to debate Maroney and state why he is mediocre? Like I said earlier, what would these internet "tough guys" say to guys like you and I if we were having a debate at the bar? Would they still be calling us ******ed, morons, ***holes, and idiots? Something tells me they would not.
 
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So check it out: who's got the 175 or more range of carries, and has a 4.3 average?

That's real easy since I already said it, Kevan Barlow. Of course you weren't listening as usual so let's put the numbers on the table.

Kevan Barlow
2003: 201 carries 1,024 yards 5.1 ypc
(http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/BarlKe00.htm)

And where is he now? Oh yeah, he would be the guy that's unemployed.
Barlow's numbers are so similar to Maroney's that it's scary.
And when he finally was no longer teamed with Hearst, his production plummeted, much like Maroney has gone downhill without Dillon.

It's not the end of the world if Maroney is only suitable to be a #2 RB. Just find him a good platoonmate. Someone that CAN get the job done as the Pats #1 back.

Somebody asked me, what do you expect of the #21 pick in the NFL draft?
And I respond how about a RB like McGahee (#23) or Addai (#30).
Is that so much to ask? When you watch those guys go against the Patriots head to head, you begin to realize, those teams have got runningbacks that can carry their teams on their shoulders and that Maroney has a LONG way to go before he can be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.
 
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"As usual?" never mind. Had a nasty paragraph that addressed the two-headed-Maroney-hater. You weren't particularly nasty about your view and I don't see any reason we should start now. I thought we'd actually been rather civil, but I could go uncivil if you want. I just don't see the point.

Now then. Kevan Barlow had a decent year, followed by a bad year, and then a slide into oblivion. He did, in fact, have a nice YPC. We won't even discuss the possibility that the 9ers team as a whole was in decline. It's not worth it, and it's indirect. Instead, let's have a look at the backs I can find in 2006, with a quick trot through the stats for 4.3 YPC or better, 175 carries or better, 10 TDs or fewer (the main complaint about Maroney, as I see it).

2006

Frank Gore (8)
Tiki Barber (5)
Travis Henry (7)
Brian Westbrook (7)
Tatum Bell (2)
Fred Taylor (5)
Ladell Betts (4)
Deuce MacAllister (10)
Joseph Addai (7)
actually only 166 carries, but close

I don't see the need to go back to 2005, let alone 2003.

So this is our world of guys who carried half or more of the load in 2006 (no 135 carry guys), who have a 4.3 and better average, and who have 10 or fewer TDs (in range of Maroney.) You might note that Addai especially stands out in closeness to Maroney's TD total. Westbrook, Henry, Gore, and Fred Taylor were also close. Is your argument that any of these individuals should be fired to make room for McFadden? Are they all flashes in the pan? Are they, in fact, Kevan Barlow? And the comical part of your Addai binky is that he primarily distinguishes himself vis a vis Maroney in, you guessed it, America -- survey says, YARDS PER CARRY! (He came in at 4.8).

Just watching Maroney run, I agree you can make a non-statistical "anecdotal" case that his style is hesitant at times. But I ask again, how does that translate to a decent 4.3 average per carry?

I also want to point out that 4.3 isn't sky-high. It's good, not great.

But your argument from a single example, picked for obvious reasons from four years ago, seems pretty selective, when there are so many cases of individuals who do not seem damned to oblivion.

Tell me who on this 2006 list, with 175+ carries, and a 4.3 average, should be ditched.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...egory=RUNNING_BACK&season=2006&seasonType=REG

Oh wait. Does this only apply to Pats' running backs named Maroney?

You'll also note that the "greats" tend to run 300-400 times in a season, to compile those "memorable" numbers, and to have more "memorable" games, moments, and runs. Well tough titties. The N.E. approach was to run a platoon, which, in a 16-game season, might not be a bad approach. Have a look at 400 carry backs the following year (Larry Johnson anybody?)

BB continued the platoon approach. But you can't platoon with Kevin Faulk, who you cited as a much higher YPC guy - use him for 150 carries, and he drops to 3.5 or 3.6 YPC, and those numbers are unacceptable (as we learned in 2000 and 2003).

What Maroney gives you is that steady presence, if you choose to use it, and flashes of a higher level, which still remains possible. As is, he brings you something you don't have elsewhere on the team.

Right now, he works in a platoon. If the Pats continue with that model, there's no reason to move on to another back. If the Pats move back into a 1st and 2nd down guy, and a 3rd down guy (as with Dillon/Faulk c2004,) Maroney is the 2-down guy. I don't think the Pats ever go so far as to ride him like the bolts ride Lady Tom, for example.

Do I need to go back through 2004 and 2005 before I find a "failed" back with a 4.3 or better average, and 175+ carries, back in 2003? Is that the exercise you went through?

Or did it just leap to mind immediately? In either case, I'd be curious to hear who on the above list you'd fire. I guess you could fire Tatum Bell pretty easily, who also compiled an underwhelming 2 TDs. Ladell Betts? Maybe, but only if you have Portis too. Barber? Retired. Otherwise, it looks like pretty solid company.

PFnV
 
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I am still waiting for your expections this is like the 10th or 11th time you have been asked about your expections and ecerytime you ignore the question
 
We where told we where the only "imbeciles" , "morons" and "trolls" who thought Maroney was average at best.

This poll shows that is totally false.

Kudos on keeping your posts insult free. I have been getting warned by the mods and I have not insulted a single poster. They sure insult me though. Hypocrisy at its finest!

Christ a MOD started a thread insulting me. These kool aids just cant take anyone criticizing Maroney , even in a respectful way!

You ARE an imbecile and a moron. This POLL shows nothing of the sort. Only because YOU have no idea what the words mean that you posted.

You asked if people would chose someone OTHER than Maroney. You did NOT ask whether Maroney was AVERAGE. You didn't have the balls to do that.
 
Exactly. I laugh. The people that disagree with our fair opinion on Maroney are the ones that calls us all the junior high names. What would these guys do if they saw guys like you and I at the bar and this discussion came up? My take would be no different, whether it is on a message board or if I was standing across the bar. I wonder if these guys would talk the way they talk if they couldn't hide behind their computer, LOL!

There is nothing FAIR about your opinion. But you are too stupid to realize that. You totally ignore Maroney's age and experience.

BTW, I would call you a moron if we were in a bar because I call it like I see it.
 
Man oh man, this thread is epic.
 
Hey, Maroney knob-gobblers:

This was an entirely fair poll. A lot of people are concerned about his play.

How was this a FAIR poll? The 2nd OPTION is on a different subject than the 1st and 3rd options.

The 1st and 3rd options talk about how Maroney is doing. The 2nd options asked a person's opinion on whether they'd have chosen Maroney.
 
Hmm. The fact that MORE people would not draft Maroney if they had the chance to go back in time, then would draft Maroney given the chance is a red flag alone.

DAMN. I love your logic. Last night, there was a whopping 3 person difference in the poll when I logged off at 1:30 am CST. I logged in today and the poll has swung the other direction by 3.

You sitting there and beating your chest as if this poll supports your claims shows 2 things. 1) you are an idiot. 2) As you have with Maroney, you have a propensity to jump the gun and make assumptions without having all the facts on hand.

Unlike YOU, I understand english. And when a person asks an opinion as to whether you'd go back and draft someone else, that isn't a damning statement to the person taken. But you don't comprehend that.



Using your own logic we could say close to 80 percent of those polled are either against drafting Maroney or undecided. If you compare who would flat out re draft Maroney to who would pass on him the results favor those who would pass. Great attitude from the fans when talking about our "star" running back.

This is week 13 of year two. Maroney also got three extra games in the playoffs last year.Honestly how many more excuses does this kid need. It has been two years!!!!

Avg shelf life of a NFL back is 4 years. We are 50 percent there and almost 80 percent of people polled are against drafting Maroney or unsure.

Not good


Our opinions have always been valid. Only the kool aid swilling homers wont admit LoMo is under performing considering where he was drafted, and how coveted of a back he was. Dont choke on the red stuff.

You "opinions" are garbage and have no validity. They aren't supported by fact and they are made by IGNORING reality and comparing apples to oranges and grapefruit.

You've proven yourself to be incapable of logical thought. You ignore facts more than any person except one moronic Italian on the ESPN message boards than any other person I've seen post.
 
Exactly. The against numbers should be close to zero in week thirteen of year two for a first round "star" back.

Why should they be ZERO? Because a moron like yourself with NO SENSIBILITY and NO LOGIC says so? Your a NOBODY who has shown time and again that you are too stupid to have this conversation and that you purposely INGORE FACTS.

Your expectations are FLAWED and, as a result, so are your opinions.

Tiki Barber took 5 years to become a STAR back. Larry Johnson wasn't a STAR until his 3rd season. There have been numerous running backs who have developed after 2.5-3 years in this league.

Yet, you, in your miniscule wisdom, think that you know wtf you are talking about?
 
Why should they be ZERO? Because a moron like yourself with NO SENSIBILITY and NO LOGIC says so? Your a NOBODY who has shown time and again that you are too stupid to have this conversation and that you purposely INGORE FACTS.

Your expectations are FLAWED and, as a result, so are your opinions.

Tiki Barber took 5 years to become a STAR back. Larry Johnson wasn't a STAR until his 3rd season. There have been numerous running backs who have developed after 2.5-3 years in this league.

Yet, you, in your miniscule wisdom, think that you know wtf you are talking about?



Deep breaths da bruinz .... Deep breaths....
 
Exactly. The Maroney fan club and PR team love to cherry pick the stats. Whatever fits their argument. The kid is MEDIOCRE. Bottom line. He's a nice backup running back or the #2 guy in a 1-2 system. That's it. It's ok, fellas, you can still be a Pats fan and NOT be happy with the play of one or two players. It doesn't make you a bad fan. For cris sakes!

You are the friggin imbecile who cherry picked stats. Not people telling you that you don't have a clue.

But, god forbid you deal in REALITY.
 
You are the friggin imbecile who cherry picked stats. Not people telling you that you don't have a clue.

But, god forbid you deal in REALITY.

Im in a rageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at the rash of insults. The mods def let certain people say and do whatever they want...
 
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