BGC 2018 NFL DRAFT/PATRIOT-TYPE THREAD

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Congrats! It should be ok to post the link here -- @midwestpatsfan does it all the time for his reports. NEPatriotsDraft.com - 2015 NFL Draft

Thanks for the report. Mata'afa does sound intriguing as someone who could play outside and the kick inside on 3rd downs. If he were 3 inches taller and 10 pound heavier it wouldn't be to dissimilar from Chandler Jones. However, according to this site (Washington State football: NFL draft projections on Coug DL Hercules Mata'afa all over the map) there are concerns that his height/weight is already overstated, that's he 6'1" and 240 which would certainly impact things.

Although as you also alluded to, his size is close to Tedy Bruschi, and it would be really interesting to see if BB thinks he can be truly multiple and be an inside linebacker type - and you've noted that he's already done some of that a few times in college which definitely helps.

Sounds interesting as a long-term developmental project, and someone who sounds like he'd be completely reliable on special teams in year 1 (like Bruschi).

Thanks man & I def will if it's not already here. MWPF is a really good dude.

Mata'afa is one of the most intriguing prospects in this years draft imho. His weight will be huge. He he can get to & maintain 255-260 teams won't shy away, esp 34 teams.

I just think he's perfect for today's multiple NFL. I really believe he has what it takes to transition inside if needed

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

 

[WaterfallJumper]

That's a lot of effort. :O

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Balance, explosion, lateral movement & a legit rec threat.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Claps to catch the ball too much & his blocking is ... well, not his strong suit.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Claps to catch the ball too much & his blocking is ... well, not his strong suit.

Neither he nor the DB really affected the play. I've seen plenty of reps with strong effort. He's been penalized, in fact, for blocking too aggressively -- think Gronk throwing Brown out of the club.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Neither he nor the DB really affected the play. I've seen plenty of reps with strong effort. He's been penalized, in fact, for blocking too aggressively -- think Gronk throwing Brown out of the club.

I hear that. I think the point was to show what he does when no one's looking. Do those things come natural to the player? A play designed to go one way could end up backside.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

If the Pats are indeed still in "all in" mode two guys Im targeting hard are Armstead & Quinn.

Armstead is another multiple player up front but probably should could be utilized better than he currently was. Armstead, Guy, Brown, Valentine, Butler would a very nice rotation of big bodies.

Quinn is a project to deal with injury wise but he'd be an amazing get. Even now post injuries, when healthy hes a force to deal with. Manage his snaps but that wouldn't be a problem w/ a rotaion of Quinn, Flowers, Harrison, Wise, Hightower, Rivers & co would be quite the rotation of rushers.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Russell, Boller & have both done this before from longer. Billick was drooling while watching him throw like 60+ from his knees.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

If the Pats are indeed still in "all in" mode two guys Im targeting hard are Armstead & Quinn.

Armstead is another multiple player up front but probably should could be utilized better than he currently was. Armstead, Guy, Brown, Valentine, Butler would a very nice rotation of big bodies.

Quinn is a project to deal with injury wise but he'd be an amazing get. Even now post injuries, when healthy hes a force to deal with. Manage his snaps but that wouldn't be a problem w/ a rotaion of Quinn, Flowers, Harrison, Wise, Hightower, Rivers & co would be quite the rotation of rushers.

Quinn was one of my all time draft crushes. The only guy I had rated above him that was Aldon Smith, who would probably be on a hall of fame trajectory if he didn't have so many off the field problems (that year I wanted Smith / Wilkerson; imagine that combo if they stayed healthy and focused). I'm not sure he's available, though. I doubt they'd part with him for less than a 2nd. I would send 63 to them in a heartbeat, though!

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Quinn was one of my all time draft crushes. The only guy I had rated above him that was Aldon Smith, who would probably be on a hall of fame trajectory if he didn't have so many off the field problems (that year I wanted Smith / Wilkerson; imagine that combo if they stayed healthy and focused). I'm not sure he's available, though. I doubt they'd part with him for less than a 2nd. I would send 63 to them in a heartbeat, though!

I loved Quinn & Smith.

He's a handful to deal w/ injury wise & his contract has to get re-done. I honestly think 63 would get it done although I'm sure N.E. would want the same in terms of the contract but we've been creative in the last.

The key for me would be Harrison staying. Think about Flowers, Harrison, Quinn, Wise rotation w/ Hightower, Rivers & co coming back.

 

[Snooky97]

Balance, explosion, lateral movement & a legit rec threat.

Reminds me of Lewis..

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Mark Walton has been a fav to watch but he's been involved in some really weird ****. It's not new but there's very little clarity & lots of reading between the lines. Love the player & there's a lot of him in this thread.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

I feel some team won't give us a chance we need to take him at 31 if we want him but I badly want linebackers.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Mark Walton has been a fav to watch but he's been involved in some really weird ****. It's not new but there's very little clarity & lots of reading between the lines. Love the player & there's a lot of him in this thread.

Yikes. That's not good at all.

 

[Username]

Yikes. That's not good at all.

I'd still take a shot. He'll probably be a 6th - UDFA, nothing to lose at that point...

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I'd still take a shot. He'll probably be a 6th - UDFA, nothing to lose at that point...

Did you read the full report? If he actually did impersonate a police officer, assault a woman, try to blackmail her into a date, along with driving at several times the legal limit -- man, that's completely off my board. That's a whole 'nother level of questionable behavior.

 

[Username]

Did you read the full report? If he actually did impersonate a police officer, assault a woman, try to blackmail her into a date, along with driving at several times the legal limit -- man, that's completely off my board. That's a whole 'nother level of questionable behavior.

Yeah, it's weird. But apparently there's a lot of shady stuff about the case, with talk of police involvement in a set up. To be honest, his version of events sounds a lot more plausible, especially considering that all charges were dropped.

Mark Walton tells his side of DUI arrest story, his attorneys release documents | Canes Watch

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I feel some team won't give us a chance we need to take him at 31 if we want him but I badly want linebackers.

31: Goedert
41/43: LB/DE
63: QB
95: LB/DE