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  1. DarrylS

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    Interesting comments from an interesting source, of course most of us knew this... maybe they can shoot for 5% minorities at the next convention.. or maybe not, no one wants to give up their spot...

    Newsmax.com - Zogby: GOP Faces Extinction Risk

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    If the conservatives who participate in this forum are at all representative, I think the Republican Party is going to have a hard time broadening its base. It seems to me that conservatives believe that the only kind of discrimination that's an issue is that againt white Christians, and that blacks, Latinos, gays, and others just need to take personal responsibility. That kind of white superiority attitude will marginalize the Republican Party, though I think they probably have another decade to change before they're hopeless. Also, so far, we don't see anyone talking seriously about third party.
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    Election has nothing to do with race or religion.

    Election is about only one thing: jobs.

    If the unemployment remains the same after 4 years, you are looking at a new President in 2012.

    In fact, you may be seeing new Republican governors in New Jersey and Virginia before the year is over.

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    #12 Jersey


    I think that’s true to a large degree. You can measure it in the Obama's slippage in polls. He's losing the support of the middle moderates that he had won over in the election. The Republican Party does have to send a new message however but it won't be easy. They deserve some of the criticism(preaching how to live etc.)though too many “white superiority/racist/homophobe/war monger” labels are hyped way beyond reality. If you have an issue with affirmative action them you must be a racist….that kind of thing. With every news outlet outside of Fox and every talk show and comedy channel all beating the same drum it's going to be hard to shake no matter what they do.
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    1976 all over again for them. Took four years, electing a charismatic Democrat, and an economic collapse and rampant inflation to get them kick started again :rolleyes:

    Reports of the party's death are greatly exaggerated and not rooted in reality :rolleyes:
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    So the words of a Republican Pollster ring hollow???
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    Yes they do. As much as people like to salivate at seeing the party dead and buried they aren't dead yet, they still have a long way to go before the party is dead.
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    Mr Zogby is a dem.....as usual totally wrong (you not Zog). If the pubbies blow up ther will be some sort of conservative libertarian party to take their place. BO is demonstrating how

    destructive the policies of the lib left are, he is a great slaesman for the ideas of libertarians and conservatives economically. Note I did NOT say republicans.
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    Not drooling at all, just interesting comments... from a pollster, reflective of much of what is seen here on this board and what is seen in real life...
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    #24 Jersey

    We've had these threads before. "Republican" has a bad feel for it right now but all the polls show most people, by a wide margin, consider themselves Conservative. The Republicans just need a good candidate to give "Republican" a good name again and they will be just fine.
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    Those are not words of a Republican Pollster.

    Those are words of Mark Twain. :D



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    From the Zogby website:



    So why is he a pubbie pollster?
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    The Republican "party" is no longer any more conservative than the Democratic "Party". They can't win with their Jesus, anti-gay, anti-abortion base any more. They, along with the Democrats, have decided to merge in the middle and behave as one with their main goal being to exclude all new comers. The Republicrat Party is here to serve you, as long as you are a corporate contributor to their machine.
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    #24 Jersey

    I disagree, they just need a good candidate. Most people is the country believe in Jesus. More are against gay marriage. Most are for discouraging abortions. The Republican message is fine but they need more eloquence and they need to get back to cutting spending.
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    If that's the Republican message, it's not fine. It's not relevant. People vote on how well their families are doing-the economy. The Republicans are just as responsible for trashing the economy this time, if not moreso because they're supposed to be the ones who push in the "smaller government" direction, but we all know they aren't. It's just like the way they claim to have better "family values" but are in the paper every month with some sex or criminal scandal. And they're just as hooked on money and power as anyone else. Don't fool yourself.
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    Could this be the beginnings of a third major political party? If the GOP dissolves, it's not like all the conservatives will become Democrats. I predict the moderate conservatives would cast off the extremist righties and form there own political party, or perhaps become the remnant of the Republican party (I would think they'd want to change their name, though). Or else the righties would take over the GOP. But then I would see many of the moderate lefties merging in the middle with the moderate righties. Ultimately you wind up with a liberal party (the Democrats) which is more ultra-liberal, a moderate party, and a conservative party which is more ultra-conservative. Would the moderate party dominate? It would be an interesting trichotomy.
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    #12 Jersey

    Statistically both parties are in decline. The "independent" or "unenrolled" is the only voter registration category that is growing.
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    #24 Jersey

    The Republicans are partially responsible although I disagree with "just as". But going with what you said, it's not just the Republicans, it's the Dems too and they will be held responsible for this massive increase in the deficit unless it turns around. The fact that both parties suck right now doesn't mean only one will be held responsible and only one will face extinction. The Republicans got hit because things sucked with a (R) prez. The same will happen to the Dems if things continue to suck with a (D) prez and, even moreso, with a (D) Congress.
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    15 years ago it was harping about the death of the Democratic Party after a 54 seat loss to the Republicans in the House of Representatives and an eight seat loss in the Senate. That loss was even WORSE than the loss by the Republicans to the Democrats in 2006 and 2008.

    It's the standard generational party shift, one party loses control and the media claims it's the death of the losing party. Next it will be the death of the Democrats when they wear out their majority down the road.
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    AAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


    the good news is that there's always the democrats to one up the republicans with stupidity........give it a few moments, the middle will run away from the libbies.........again

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