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  1. IcyPatriot

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    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/education/

    More than 3 here but I did not want to leave any out mods.

    K-12

    • I like this initiative ... but schools needing improvement should not just be handed money ... there needs to be more accountability.
    • This is great but shouldn't reading be #1?
    • Perhaps denying some benefits to parents of dropouts would work best.
    • Great idea ... more kids helped the better.
    • Great idea ... a move towards year round education perhaps?
    • The priority for this needs to be even higher....but great idea.

    • I'm unsure on this. Kids should not be punished because their parentsplaced there here in an English speaking society. Most Latin-American kids do speak English as the parents insist on it ... I would not invest too much $$$ in this area as it will hurt other more important areas.
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    I'm not much into the pre and post school stuff.

    I don't get the thing about "teachers should not be forced to spend the academic year preparing students to fill in bubbles on standardized tests" - if he means it literally, after 2nd grade kids can do bubbling fine. If he means it figuratively, I'm not sure how you hold schools responsible for learning certain material without testing.

    I'm all for more math and science - at the expense of all the other crap. In elementary school I want my kids doing nothing but Math, Science, English. I don't want them learning about global warming, homosexuality, all the other crap.
     
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    K-12

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    Reform No Child Left Behind: Obama will reform NCLB, which starts by funding the law. Obama believes teachers should not be forced to spend the academic year preparing students to fill in bubbles on standardized tests. He will improve the assessments used to track student progress to measure readiness for college and the workplace and improve student learning in a timely, individualized manner. Obama will also improve NCLB's accountability system so that we are supporting schools that need improvement, rather than punishing them.

    I like this initiative ... but schools needing improvement should not just be handed money ... there needs to be more accountability.

    How can you improve if you don't have the adequate resoruces and honestly teachers are leaving the field and hard to get into the field because of all the junk outside of teacher with Special Ed paperwork, testing, etcQuote:
    Make Math and Science Education a National Priority: Obama will recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession and will support efforts to help these teachers learn from professionals in the field. He will also work to ensure that all children have access to a strong science curriculum at all grade levels.

    This is great but shouldn't reading be #1?
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    Address the Dropout Crisis: Obama will address the dropout crisis by passing his legislation to provide funding to school districts to invest in intervention strategies in middle school - strategies such as personal academic plans, teaching teams, parent involvement, mentoring, intensive reading and math instruction, and extended learning time.

    Perhaps denying some benefits to parents of dropouts would work best.

    I think this is a good idea. But we are so behind compared ot the rest of the world. There are two categories of students: those who come and want to learn and try and those who don't want to learn. We should stop forcing kids to be where they don't want to be. This is unpopular but we need people to pick up trash, clean out sewers, etc. We need to go t the world style where around the 10th grade you go to one of two tracks....learn a trade or you demonstrate that you are college bound.

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    Expand High-Quality Afterschool Opportunities: Obama will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children.

    Great idea ... more kids helped the better.

    Not a bad idea, but how come the main part of the school day is so ineffective? Kids attention spans and heads can only sit in school for so long.
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    Expand Summer Learning Opportunities: Obama's "STEP UP" plan addresses the achievement gap by supporting summer learning opportunities for disadvantaged children through partnerships between local schools and community organizations.

    Great idea ... a move towards year round education perhaps?

    Year round education will never happen. Good luck trying to fund it. Higher teacher salaries, more bussing, and more materials and utilities. Not to mention the teacher union. We have a huge debt and we want to spend more?
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    Support College Outreach Programs: Obama supports outreach programs like GEAR UP, TRIO and Upward Bound to encourage more young people from low-income families to consider and prepare for college.

    The priority for this needs to be even higher....but great idea.

    I have to agree that if someone wants to improve their lot in life and are willing to work for it they should be supported.Quote:

    Support English Language Learners: Obama supports transitional bilingual education and will help Limited English Proficient students get ahead by holding schools accountable for making sure these students complete school.

    I'm unsure on this. Kids should not be punished because their parents placed there here in an English speaking society. Most Latin-American kids do speak English as the parents insist on it ... I would not invest too much $$$ in this area as it will hurt other more important areas.

    I think they need to teach foreign language starting in the first grade.


    Standardized testing eats up so much time. It really eats up 2 weeks of the 40 weeks. The last week nothing really happens.
     
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    Getting people from the professional field isn't the cure all. Alot of them can't teach
     
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    Yeah ... especially in college ... they get assistants to do their work.
     

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