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  1. buffalo_jill

    buffalo_jill Banned

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    You all should stop hating on the Bills. And Kraft in particular should stop his targeted abuse of this small market team. Without Bills' owner Ralph Wilson's vision and generosity there likely wouldn't be an AFC, nor a Patriots team at all.

    "He (Ralph Wilson) was a guiding force in AFL policies that ensured success, such as gate and television revenue sharing; in 1961, with the rival Oakland Raiders in financial difficulty, Wilson loaned the club $400,000 and also would be willing to loan money to Billy Sullivan of the Patriots. Wilson helped keep those franchises afloat, likely saving the entire league from folding. In November 1963, Wilson lobbied successfully to have American Football League games postponed the Sunday after JFK's assassination, while NFL games went on uninterrupted."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Wilson
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    what is it you want out of us jill? spot you a game every season? not gonna happen
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    Ok, thanks Ralph.

    Now onto CURRENT day discussions.
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    Who hates the Bills? They're utterly irrelevant.
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    That's right, Jill. What is there to hate? And if Ralph is such a savior, see if he ensures the Bills permanance in your beautiful city.
  6. RI Pats Fan

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    When JP Losman isn't their quarterback, I like the team and would've liked to see them make the playoffs this year. If the Bills were to challenge the Pats in the AFC East, that'd be different. Bills (wildcard), Browns (division), Jags (division) are the teams I like to follow besides the Patriots. I hate Denver and San Diego, no feelings about KC, and I'm appreciative of the Raiders for giving us Moss so I can't hate them.
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    yeah, i think jill is some dislocated buffalonian living in beantown. she hears male co-workers chatting the up the pats every day. that and the media here makes her feel overwhelmed at times. which explains the occasional sore posts of hers.
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    I've always respected the Bills and their fans.
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    thanks ralph. :rocker:
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    Actually Jill has it wrong. Kraft was one of the big market owners that was in favor of subsidizing the small market teams like Buffalo.
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    Ha, ha....
    Bills are on NFL welfare!
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    #75 Jersey

    How about less complaining and more Pom Pom shaking?
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    And while we are at it, props to Ben Franklin for flying that kite, otherwise there would be no night games, and to Christopher Columbus for discovering the continent....
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    #12 Jersey

    personally i do not hate at all the Buffalo Bills; compliments to yr 2007 season (you had an amazing run considering all you had...)
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    Ralph Wilson is 89 years old.

    'Nuff said.
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    #12 Jersey

    The funny thing is the Bills are the one divisional opponent that isn't hated around here. Generally people post that they wish the Bills well when they are not playing the Pats and that the Pats fans respect the Bills fans passion.

    There has never been a kind word printed around here about the Jets or Fins. Nor will there be or should there be.
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    It's especially odd when you think that in the last 20 years, the Bills have had a lot more success than the Jets and Dolphins as well.

    I'm not going to thank Wilson. I don't like the guy. I think he should sell his team to Buffalo people now. The guy has become a billionaire off a $20k investment. That's to his credit. And he and his wife should keep that money. But he shouldn't milk that franchise for every last dime. We're talking about 47 years of incredible fan support even through owner interference (he chooses the QB).

    Also, maybe if Wilson didn't help the Sullivans, they would have been forced to sell earlier, thereby preventing rampant alcoholism among Patriot fans in the 70s and 80s.

    Lastly, Kraft is not one of the big owners looking to share revenue with the Bills. Kraft is in the Jerry Jones category when it comes to this issue. He understands Wilson's point-of-view but he disagrees with it.
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    and they'd need less revenue sharing if they sold the naming rights to their stadium, instead of having it named after their founder..... It may only be $2-3 million per year but over ten years it would add up. You can't have it both ways, whining about being a small market franchise but not maximizing potential revenue sources. Other small markets, like GB and Pitt and KC do alright....
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    This thread is moronic, but looking at your post history, that's no surprise. Go start a draft thread on a Bills forum. Just remember to take into account the fact that you pick last of any AFC East team. How's that feel?
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    Don't be harsh. Her football season is over after all. :cool:
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    You owe your very existence to some cheap booze and a bad decision.
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    I thought it was down to my mum and dad on holiday...

    Say there Mr Wilson, did you happen to frollock with a young British girl in the early 80's?
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    I am another person that likes the Bills.

    In fact, I loved Kelly. What a total bum for you guys and your SB runs. I was rooting for you. Did not happen. Darn.

    Don't worry Jill, your team has a great tradition, and actually quite a few Pat fans (like me) that respect and like your team.

    So, it's OK. No reason to think otherwise.

    No need to come here and flame. You are OK in our house.
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    Disable Jersey

    Another long time Bills fan here. Ironic that Belichick was the hated Jints DC in the SB win over the Bills that crushed my heart. Anyway, Old Man Wilson is senile and had he let Flutie do his thing instead of giving the draft pick for that useless Rob Johnson the Bills might have been a force into the late 90s. Instead, with Rob Johnson they were a farce.
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    #75 Jersey

    Ralph owes the city of Buffalo a Super Bowl.
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    "You owe your very existence to some cheap booze and a bad decision"

    Sorry Buffalo_Jill, that was BY FAR the single best shot across the deck anyone has ever written here.

    If in fact you are Jill Kelly, I take it back (highly unlikely)

    Fixit, you get the prize, outstandingly funny....................
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    Speaking only for myself,

    I HATE THE BILLS AND THEIR LOSER FANS.

    The Bills Fans are so freaking bitter and hateful, that they cheer for whoever plays the Patriots. I love to read their posts on their boards when the Patriots once again, go against their "so-called expert knowledge and opinion" and win again and again and again.

    I HATE THE BILLS AND THEIR LOSER FANS.
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    Well genius, it's always brilliant to lump a group of people together. I can't believe that Bills' fans don't cheer for their division rival to win. :rolleyes:

    In all honesty, I have a lot respect for a lot of Pats, especially their first couple of championship teams. Can't really get behind this year's version because of Moss, Harrison, and the spygate thing but there are the model franchise right now and most of their tend to be good spirited.

    That said, one day it would be nice to play the Pats in a meaningful game and actually win. :singing:
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    I actually feel for you.

    I hope you were not a fan when 4 SB's went by. If it were me, well, it would hurt.

    You know during those days we were used to being bums, so when we lost no big deal. But darn.

    So, may you keep your team in Buffalo. Hang in there.
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    Another reason I hate Bills fans, is that when you go to their websites they claim the Patriots have no real fans, that we are all a bunch of bandwagon-jumping fair weather fans. For example, they back this up by claiming that Patriots fans when questioned, don't know who Steve Grogan is.

    Well all I know is that when I have talked about football with this diehard experts, they claim that Chuck Knox never coached their team, don't have any clue who Joe Ferguson is, and the only player they can name before their Super Bowl trips is OJ.

    I HATE THEM ALL.
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