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    Rubio, one of that tiny number of Republican minorities who the Republicans try to push into national prominence in their pathetic effort to appear less white, is often seen as a rising star in the Party and a possible VP nominee. Now, it turns out that the moving story of his parents exile from Cuba was simply a lie. Maybe he can get a job on Fox?

    Marco Rubio’s compelling family story embellishes facts, documents show - The Washington Post

    During his rise to political prominence, Sen. Marco Rubio frequently repeated a compelling version of his family’s history that had special resonance in South Florida. He was the “son of exiles,” he told audiences, Cuban Americans forced off their beloved island after “a thug,” Fidel Castro, took power.

    But a review of documents — including naturalization papers and other official records — reveals that the Florida Republican’s account embellishes the facts. The documents show that Rubio’s parents came to the United States and were admitted for permanent residence more than 21 / 2 years before Castro’s forces overthrew the Cuban government and took power on New Year’s Day 1959.
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    Gee they left during a civil war when they figured out who would win, shocking. How dare they move their family to safety.

    What proof is there that they would have moved if not for the civil war being waged by Castro and his psychotic sidekick Che?
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    Do you even know why you guys love Che?
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    FYI there are two restaurants called the Cuban Revolution in Providence...

    Interesting comments from JFK...



    U.S. President John F. Kennedy, interview with Jean Daniel, 24 October 1963
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    Who loves Che?????

    Seems as though Hollywood does, but no one I know really cares all that much about him...
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    Still harbouring that pent-up deep-seeded anger over people on the right?

    Everyday when you read or watch the news, do you find yourself looking for conservative topics to be angry about?

    Keeping you up at night?

    Good!
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    Only a loser, coward and traitor could love Che.

    So if you want to find an American loser, coward and traitor, just look for those with the Che T-shirts....yup, that's them.
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    They left before the civil war had started. It didn't start until 1958. They left because the government of Cuba had created an economic mess. They did not flee Castro.
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    Incorrect. 1956.
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    Patters is just another racist leftie. He gets a pass on the false assumption that the Republicans are racist, so he can huddle with the progressive freak fringe and find more ways to oppress and eliminate those who don't look like him. The racist filth he brings to the table is constant and vile.
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    Che was in many ways a great man. He was the response by the outcasts, the unemployed, and the poor to the violent and brutal dictatorships in South America. His popularity stems from his motorcycling around South America championing the rights of the poor and making the world aware of the oppressive right wing governments and the abuses of multi-national corporations in South America. He ultimately was far too dogmatic, by modern standards, and far too violent, but his teachers in that regard were the brutal dictators of South America, some of whom were installed by the CIA.

    Carlos Castillo Armas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Che was certainly not perfect, but he did give hope to millions of oppressed people. That is his main legacy.

    I gather your knowledge of him comes from blurbs on right wing sites?
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    To me, it sounds like you have not read anything about Che, and are simply adapting the popular right wing version of Che. Perhaps your only knowledge of him is seeing young people in Che tee shirts? Try reading a book about his life, and you'll see he's far from being one dimensional and did a lot more good than bad (though he certainly did some bad, especially as he got older).
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    I love the righties. That's why I participate in this forum. I enjoy a good political fight. If I didn't respect the righties, I wouldn't post in this forum.
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    Hitler did some good things for the German poor, so that makes him someone to admire, according to Patters... he was a complicated, misunderstood person, right?
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    Your logic is childish. What you wrote can apply to anyone at all -- Reagan, Bush, Mao, Qadaffi, Obama, you name it. Or are you accusing Che of genocide? Once again, you sound like the vast majority of conservatives whose only knowledge of Che comes from snippets here and there in right wing media. Che was great as symbol and flawed as a human, very much like many other leaders.
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    Yeah... everyone above is comparable... point proven, you're insane.
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    All I need to know is that he killed many of his own people. And that is the very definition of "Coward".

    Beyond that, it doesn't matter what the man did.
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    Lincoln was a coward? Wow!
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    Now you're being obtuse. Lincoln was president during a civil war where open battles were fought. Che had his own citizens arrested and shot. He basically rounded them up for execution.

    Just ask those who fled to the US if Che was a hero.

    Your response is?
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    Man, too bad your personal attacks resulted in you being banned from the thread. But, I have never defended Marxism on this board, but I understand something called "context," and in the context of the events of his age, Che did a lot of good. Far more people were murdered by CIA installed South American governments than by Che. Che helped begin the process of liberating South America. That's his significance, and that's why the right wing hates him.

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