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    Hunt for WMD in Iraq almost over.

    More than four years after the fall of Baghdad, the United Nations continues to spend “millions of dollars in Iraqi oil money to continue the hunt for Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction.” But a new report in the New York Times indicates that the search “appears close to an official conclusion, several years after their absence became a foregone one”:

    The United States and Britain have circulated a new proposal to the members of the United Nations Security Council to “terminate immediately the mandates” of the weapons inspectors. Staff meetings on the latest proposal have already taken place, and officials say that the permanent Council members, each of whom has veto power, seem ready to let the inspection group — the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission — meet its end.​
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    October will be the third anniversary of the American-led Iraq Survey Group’s finding that the Hussein government had destroyed its stockpiles of illicit weapons just months after the Persian Gulf war in 1991.
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    It realtes to the general consensus on WMD in Iraq both before and during the Bush administration. This address the issue of WMD in Iraq.

    The fact that we can't locate the materials in Iraq is not a BFD IMO why? While we were screwing around with the UN for 9 months before going into Iraq Saddam had all the time needed to move the material out of Iraq.

    There are numerous reports he did just that. See the book written by the ex #2 officer in the Iraqi AF who said that Chem weapons were sent to Syria.
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    sad and pathetic assessment that you're still clinging to, probably until the very day you expire.... unfortunately for you, and your war-mongering stance, the Iraq Survey Group disagrees with your selective "evidence"

    scores of weapons inspectors were in Iraq long before we were "screwing around with the UN"... they found nothing... if you knew the slightest thing about WMD production, you would realize (but still deny) that you can't just clean up WMD programs without a shred of evidence left behind...

    further, Iraq and Syria weren't even speaking with eachother until fairly recently

    According to Department of Defense documents based on more than a decade of international inspections, electronic surveillance, and information supplied by spies and defectors, nearly all the chemical and biological weapons sold to Iraq - mostly by American and European corporations - are now useless, that is if they exist at all.

    Former United Nations weapons inspector Scott Ritter has said as much, pointing out that the nasty stuff Saddam had in his possession all those years ago has long since turned to harmless slop. For instance, the nerve agents sarin and tabun have a shelf life of five years. VX lasts a bit longer, but not much. Botulinum toxin and liquid anthrax last about three years. Nearly all the chemical and biological weapons the Evil One had at his disposal have since turned to "harmless, useless goo," according to Ritter. ​
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    The ISG qualified their report saying they "didn't think" WMD was sent to Syria, this of course means THEY DON"T KNOW. Iraqi's involved in shipping the material to Syria in 2002 & 2003 contradict this opinion in the Part of the ISG.

    And of course as we see from the youtube link above all the leading democrats with access to the availiable intel before and during the Bush administration felt that Iraq definitly had WMD.

    Dem lied people died??
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    #24 Jersey

    Obviously Bush was wrong and screwed up. Just like the Republican AND DEMOCRAT congressmen who voted for the war - and the 94 out of 100 Senators who didn't even read the National Intelligence Estimate.

    This is obviously largely Bush's fault - and a lot of Democrats too, including Hillary.
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    just so we're clear, PF13... you believe Saddam sent all his deadly WMDs to Syria, the nation he was giving the silent treatment to, and that they left no evidence behind? .... ok....

    oh, that's right... you still believe Plame wasn't covert... what a convenient stretch of logic you cling to in championing aspect after aspect of this corporate war of profit...
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    #12 Jersey

    Unless you say we made it all up and went in there to get Bush's oil buddies rich and to get Haliburton a new contract, then you have no credibility. And you have been proclaimed a war mongeroring, sad and pathetic individual because you dare to question his "proof". It doesn't matter to hm that many dems thought he had WMD's. Once again LeftWingPressCoverage's "proof" fails to "prove" anything.
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    good to see you starting sh!t on a personal level again... when i hit back, are you gonna cry and run off and say "i'm done with this" again?

    he never had them, he never was a threat to the U.S.... The Whigs DID make it all up, did go into iraq to make his oil buddies rich, and Halliburton IS over-billing the U.S. tax payer multi-billions of dollars... good to see you coming around, at least...
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    #12 Jersey

    Hey lighten up. What did i say that was so personal? You're the one calling people pathetic and sad. If you can't see that you are totally left wing with the "they made it all up" stuff then you are blind... you are also very mean spirited to anyone who disagress with you.

    Just as a refresher read this. Some of this can be spun away but come on, it seems pretty clear to me that it wasn't all made up. At least these folks didn't believe it. I guess they aren't as smart as you though becasue you saw through it all along.

    Bill Clinton: "If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    Madeleine Albright, (Clinton Secretary of State): "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."

    Sandy Berger, (Clinton National Security Advisor): "[Saddam will] use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has ten times since 1983."
    Harry Reid: "The problem is not nuclear testing; it is nuclear weapons. … The number of Third World countries with nuclear capabilities seems to grow daily. Saddam Hussein's near success with developing a nuclear weapon should be an eye-opener for us all."

    Dick Durbin: "One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that…Iraq…may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."

    John Kerry: "If you don't believe…Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me."

    John Edwards: "Serving on the Intelligence Committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons, it's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."

    Nancy Pelosi: "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons-inspection process."

    A Letter From The Senators: "We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Sens. Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry in a letter to Bill Clinton.


    Here are some more LIES>>>>>>>>


    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

    "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
    Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
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    "People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."

    Former President Clinton
    During an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live"
    July 22, 2003
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/clinton.iraq.sotu/
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