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    Who BETTER to start things rolling than the legendary Brother Mayo Clinic, erstwhile contributor, hereabouts, OutSide The Box Thinker, Revolutionary and Visionary??? :rocker:

    Without Further Ado...Brother Mayo?? :D


    Mayo Clinic's 2012 Mock Draft ~ 3 Rounds ~ Version 1.0!!

    Here's my initial "top 96" (Day 1 and 2) picks for 2012:

    1a. Billy Winn DE Boise State / Quinton Coples DE North Carolina / Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona St. / Devin Taylor DE South Carolina. In that order. One of the 3 should be available. Coples is rated top 10 now, but he's not a sack artist and he may slip a bit.

    1b. Dontari Poe DT Memphis St. / Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington. "Super Grizzly" to add to the interior DL mix. One of the strongest players in college football, Poe could be another Haynesworth for the long term.

    2a. David DeCastro OG/C Stanford / Peter Konz OC Wisconsin / Mike Brewster OC Ohio St. Dominant interior nasty man to anchor the OL for the next decade. Again, one of the 3 should hopefully be available, or could switch priorities with the 1b pick.

    2b. Trumaine Johnson DB Montana / TJ McDonald FS USC. Both are rangy 6'3" DBs with good run and pass skills. Both could play FS, Johnson could also play man and press CB.

    3. Coby Fleener TE Stanford / Zach Ertz TE Stanford / Michael Williams TE Alabama. I'd rather add more TEs to the mix than a WR here - more versatility. Fleener and Ertz are Jimmy Graham/Jermichael Finley kind of stretch the field options. Michael Williams is a baby Gronk in the making.

    That's a lot of options. If you want you can pick whichever ones you prefer. My preferred list at this point:

    1a. Billy Winn, DE, Boise St. 6'4" 288#.

    This year's version of Cam Jordan, can play 4-3 DE, 3-4 DE, 4-3 DT, and even stand up. Versatile, non-stop motor, violent hands, thick hindquarters. Similar style player.

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    1b. Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis St. 6'5" 340#.

    In the Phil Taylor mold. Great movement skills for his size. Very strong. Could potentially be another Albert Haynesworth.

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    2a. Mike Brewster, Ohio St. 6'5" 305#.

    I'd prefer Konz or DeCastro, but Brewster looks more likely to be available at 2a. Great field general with solid skills, will anchor the line for 10 years. More Alex Mack than Nick Mangold, but that's still pretty damn good.

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    2b. Trumaine Johnson, DB, Montana. 6'3" 204#.

    Former point guard and QB with great physical skills. Strong against the run, able to play press and man. Could play FS or CB.

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    3. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford. 6'6" 254#.

    Jimmy Graham II. Great hands and speed for a TE. Not a Gronkowski, but blocking skills are adequate and developing.

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    I'm guessing we go back to the 3-4. Need some olb's. I'm picking two. Yes two!! Hell, I'm even trading up a little for the first one.

    1a - Courtney Upshaw - olb - Alabama - Trading 3 to move up. Hopefully starts at ROLB. Beats out Cunningham.

    1b - Vinny Curry - olb - Marshall - Backs up Ninko. Comes in on passing downs. Provides more athleticism to front 7.

    2a - Nick Toon - WR - Wisconsin - Need wr to eventually replace Branch. Would like to bring Deion back for another year and groom Toon to replace him.

    2b Robert Lester - FS - Alabama - Hope he falls this far.

    3 traded

    Would like to get a 2-gap de. But, can't have everything. Another thing is that in more than 50pct of plays you're in a nickel. More of a 4-2-5 allignment. Hoping Upshaw plays one de. Curry pushes Ninko at the other. Also, would have liked to get a C. But, I think Koppen and Connolly both come back next year.
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    A few thoughts...

    The greatest reason that I love corresponding with Brother Mayo, is that he Makes Me Think...and he actually employed that very term when describing his choices, here: These are not only his ~ early ~ inclinations, but were chosen with a mind to provoking thought and discussion.

    I have a similar approach.

    1 ~ In particular, the Dantari "Edgar Allen" Poe Pick is one I love. I don't feel I have a strong enough grasp on the guy, at this early stage, to say for sure, but anyone who's read my ramblings knows I am FANATICAL about amassing athletic Super Grizzlies like Vince Wilfork, Albert HaynesWorth, Haloti Ngata, and the like...and DESTROYING O Lines!! :rocker:

    2 ~ Flex End Coby Fleener ~ Flex End = The Gronk!! ~ is, in my view, the CLEAR Alpha Tight End, at this early juncture. I couldn't've put it better than did Mayo, himself: Jimmy Graham II. In English, that's a guy who's as deadly downfield as Aaron The Navigator, but has the build ~ and the potential ~ to become an excellent Blocker.
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    patsfaninpa's 2012 Mock Draft!!

    I'm guessing we go back to the 3-4.

    I'm guessing you're RIGHT!!

    Need some olb's. I'm picking two. Yes two!! Hell, I'm even trading up a little for the first one.

    1a - Courtney Upshaw - olb - Alabama -

    Trading 3 to move up. Hopefully starts at ROLB. Beats out Cunningham.

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    1b - Vinny Curry - olb - Marshall -

    Backs up Ninko. Comes in on passing downs. Provides more athleticism to front 7.

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    2a - Nick Toon - WR - Wisconsin -

    Need wr to eventually replace Branch. Would like to bring Deion back for another year and groom Toon to replace him.

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    2b Robert Lester - FS - Alabama -

    Hope he falls this far.

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    3 traded

    Would like to get a 2-gap de. But, can't have everything. Another thing is that in more than 50pct of plays you're in a nickel. More of a 4-2-5 allignment. Hoping Upshaw plays one de. Curry pushes Ninko at the other. Also, would have liked to get a C. But, I think Koppen and Connolly both come back next year.
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    Looking good, Brother Penn Pat Fan. :cool:

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    Does this format ~ flushing the Quotes and the "titliing" it with your name ~ work for you guys??

    Let me know ~ I'm easy on this. :cool:
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    Good thread and great thoughts all!

    First off I'd say the signing of Wendell means we don't go after a center this year. Wouldn't be surprised if our off week we sign Welker & Connelly to new contracts. I and many others wanted Brewster, if and only if he was the next Mangold. A call to Mike Vrabel who played against Mangold, problaby closed the book on Brewster.

    We go all defence- 1a. OLB a gamechanger. 1b. traded for a 1st 2013 & a 2nd in 2012. Trade Hoyer for a 2nd in 2012 or a 3rd in 2012 & a 3rd in 2013.

    Depending on what picks we used to get 1a., we should still have 2 2nds.
    A free safety & 3-4 DE. Since DTS. that can play DE.in a 3-4 run so deep, maybe another DLman.

    If we have another 2nd or 3rd trade it into 2013, we need it there. If we still have a 4th trade it down till we get a bunch of 7th rounders and grab some sleepers & small school possibilities. We might get lucky there.
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    Just want to say that Price is a better faster version of Branch. If only we could see it in the reg season and not the preseason.
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    Ninja as always good point about Price. Next year I'd like to get V. Jackson & work Price in alternating with Branch. It's hard to believe Price wouldn't have more receptions than Chad.
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    True. Price is behind Branch, Wes, Chad Johnson and Julian in the depth chart. And since we always run sets w. 2 TE on the field...It's hard for him to get on the field. But I do think they like Price. Other wise he would have been cut.
    Also, I don't see them getting Vjax. They have to pay him tons of money and Wes is due for a deal, also he has 2 DUI's and is 1 suspension away from being suspended for 6-16 games. No thanks.
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    Wow! what a stacked mock. Absolutely love Upshaw and Curry as bookends in our 3-4. Excellent effort on this.
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    Short and sweet for the initial draft:

    1A: Devin Taylor DE/OLB like his athleticism and the fact he plays on his feet and drops into coverage. Quick 1st step and great closing speed. Negatives are like most of the DE/OLB conversions... can he stand up against NFL tackles against the run?

    1B: Trade for 2012 #2 and 2013 #1

    2A: Robert Lester FS Alabama Really need to add some talent there to let Chung play his more natural Safety position rather than center field.

    2B: Peter Konz C Almost wouldn't make this selection except it's pretty good value here. Could also look for a 3-4 DE but thats too much of a need so BB would never do it. So i instead have him drafting a talented player on the OL here... Protect Brady and run the ball i say.

    2C:Melvin Ingram-DE/DT-South Carolina-6’4” 276lbs after my little rant i go with the 3-4 DE and hope he can develop. even tho at 276 he might need to put on some more muscle (these possitions are hard to find i guess)

    3: Trade for 2013 #2 (Rinse and Repeat)
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    I like that one. Would rather we got Upshaw with the 1A, but i agree with the position to be addressed!

    If we can grab 2/3 defensive starters and a potential playmaker i will be pretty pleased.

    There are a few good FA's out there in our positions of need and we may be able to do something there.

    Glad the Bucs got the win against the Saints - anything to raise the draft pick!! (and Jason Campbel's shoulder...)
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    Saints loss was good news. If the season ended tonight, they would be the 6th seed and have to go on the road. Didn't work out too well for them last year in Seattle. TB has Chicago at home and then a bye. They travel to NO after the bye. NO has 2 easy games going into that game Indy and St.L. That's a huge game in that division. NO wins and they're probably going to run free. If they lose they are a game behind and losing the tie-breaker. Really 2 games. A 1st round loss and that pick is 21-24. If they win division and get a bye, make NFCCG and lose. It's 29 or 30.

    Bad news for Raiders. But, their schedule doesn't look too daunting. KC at home, a bye and Denver at home to finish the 1st half. Should be 6-2. 2ND half tougher but still a couple they should win. At Minny, at Miami and at KC. Imperative for them that DMc stays healthy now. And, he's had trouble doing that in the past.
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    Nicely done, sir. :cool:
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    That was the aim really... because the way i see it at the moment, our OL is (theoretically) pretty set for the next 2-3 years. Our WR corps (in my opinion) does not need to change at all for the next year at least (Depending on Branch's play and Price's development). We are also set at RB and QB.

    This Leaves only depth at these positions on O and the ability to focus the draft on trying to build a championship caliber D. I personally believe we are close there specially up the middle with Wilfork/Haynesworth, Mayo/Spikes and Chung up the middle. We have also thrown talent at CB so i don't see that being a need as i don't think the stable of McCourty, Bodden, Arrington and Ras-I needs tinkering other than ST'ers.

    This really only leaves me with Rush OLB (Ninko/Cunningham (of last year) are in my opinion a very good all round 3-4 OLB but no one will get them confused with Pierre Paul any time soon) FS and RDE.

    With that in mind i drafted for need (something the pats never do) but hey thats why we mock right.

    I am more optimistic than most but if you add something to the edge of the pats pass rush and i think this defense transforms.

    Reason i didn't pick Upshaw was i was going through tape and i just thought my guy had that elite 1st step that is hard to find specially with his large wingspan and athletic ability. In saying that Upshaw is a very good player too probably more of a BB pick as he seems to be more of a complete footballer.
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    ^ Great post. There are tons of positions that really don't need any picks.

    1a. Devin Taylor, OLB, South Carolina [6'7", 260]
    He's not the most NFL-ready OLB prospect, but he's got the highest ceiling. You can't teach that length with that athleticism. You can "teach" bulk and technique.

    1b. Traded for a late 2nd and 2012 1st (I WANT TYRANN MATHIEU!)

    2a. TJ McDonald, FS, USC [6'3", 205]
    A FS with good range who can cover and hit. His hitting is a bit of a problem right now, but not every safety prospect is as uncoachable as Meriweather. On the scale of USC safeties, he's a lot closer to Troy Polamalu than Taylor Mays.

    2b. Kheeston Randall, DE, Texas [6'5", 295]
    He's the closest to a 3-4 DE prospect that there is available at this point. Has length and room to add more bulk, but needs technique work.

    2c. Kenny Tate, SS, Maryland [6'3", 220]
    In 2010, it was the TEs. In 2010, it was the RBs. In 2012, it will be the safeties. Tate doesn't have the coverage skills to be a full-time safety right away, but his skill set will make him an asset in the big nickel. In his time at Maryland, he has lined up out wide as a CB, back deep as a safety, in the box as an LB, and in a three point stance as a DE. With receiving TEs becoming more popular, a quality 3rd safety will be as much of a necessity as the slot corner is right now.

    3. Traded for 2 4ths

    4a. Logan Harrell, DE, Fresno State [6'2", 275]
    Harrell is a very impressive interior pass rusher, with 15 sacks in his last 20 games. With Ellis leaving in free agency most likely, he's a good fit at the 4-3 LE position and as a DT in subpackages.

    4b. David Molk, C, Michigan [6'2", 288]
    An undersized but athletic college center? Yep, that's a Belichick pick. This assumes Connolly is resigned as the starting center, but Wendell and Koppen are both gone.

    4c. Jeff Demps, RB, Florida [5'7", 191]
    I love Vereen as an every-down RB for the future, Ridley as a late-game closer, and Woodhead as a third down back who can line up as a slot receiver. However, one thing the Pats' RBs are missing is speed. Demps is going to run in the 4.2s and would likely be the fastest player in the NFL as a rookie. He doesn't have a ton of football skills, but he has enough speed to be used in a few certain plays (and kick returns) that take advantage of his speed while he learns the finer points of being an RB.


    Yep, the first 5 picks on defense. Makes tons of sense.
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    1). Joshua Chapman DT , Alabama
    2). Bruce Irvin OLB , West Virginia
    3). Shawn Prater CB , Iowa
    4). Dwight Jones WR , North Carolina
    5). Aaron Henry FS , Wisconsin
    6). George Bryan TE , North Carolina State
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    A lot of good points, Mon.

    Upshaw DOES seem more "Belichickian". Very good point.

    It's very gratifying ~ and rare ~ to see someone say we DON'T need more Wide Receivers.
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    Ah!! Great Blue has finally busted out their Draft Order Report.

    I figured I'll just start bringing that over here ~ sort of merge the Draft Order Thread with this one. Here it is:

    Great Blue North Draft Report

    And here's The Huddle's, for those who prefer theirs:

    NFL MOCK DRAFT - THE HUDDLE REPORT

    1 COLTS 0 0.516
    2 DOLPHINS 0 0.567
    3 RAMS 0 0.580
    4 CARDINALS 1 0.466
    5 JAGUARS 1 0.495
    6 PANTHERS 1 0.516
    7 BRONCOS 1 0.600
    8 VIKINGS 1 0.604
    9 BROWNS 2 0.483
    10 SEAHAWKS 2 0.489
    11 EAGLES 2 0.500
    12 COWBOYS 2 0.522
    13 CHIEFS 2 0.538
    14 TEXANS 3 0.418
    15 TITANS 3 0.419
    16 REDSKINS 3 0.422
    17 FALCONS 3 0.468
    18 JETS 3 0.511
    19 BEARS 3 0.554
    20 SAINTS 4 0.447
    21 BENGALS 4 0.460
    22 RAVENS 4 0.472
    23 BUCCANEERS 4 0.479
    24 STEELERS 4 0.483
    25 GIANTS 4 0.500
    26 CHARGERS 4 0.511
    27 BILLS 4 0.511
    28 RAIDERS 4 0.523
    29 PATRIOTS 5 0.449
    30 49ERS 5 0.465
    31 LIONS 5 0.543
    32 PACKERS 6 0.489
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    Cut + Pasted, to put this at the top of the page for y'all...

    Ah!! Great Blue has finally busted out their Draft Order Report.

    I figured I'll just start bringing that over here ~ sort of merge the Draft Order Thread with this one. Here it is:

    Great Blue North Draft Report

    And here's The Huddle's, for those who prefer theirs:

    NFL MOCK DRAFT - THE HUDDLE REPORT

    1 COLTS 0 0.516
    2 DOLPHINS 0 0.567
    3 RAMS 0 0.580
    4 CARDINALS 1 0.466
    5 JAGUARS 1 0.495
    6 PANTHERS 1 0.516
    7 BRONCOS 1 0.600
    8 VIKINGS 1 0.604
    9 BROWNS 2 0.483
    10 SEAHAWKS 2 0.489
    11 EAGLES 2 0.500
    12 COWBOYS 2 0.522
    13 CHIEFS 2 0.538
    14 TEXANS 3 0.418
    15 TITANS 3 0.419
    16 REDSKINS 3 0.422
    17 FALCONS 3 0.468
    18 JETS 3 0.511
    19 BEARS 3 0.554
    20 SAINTS 4 0.447
    21 BENGALS 4 0.460
    22 RAVENS 4 0.472
    23 BUCCANEERS 4 0.479
    24 STEELERS 4 0.483
    25 GIANTS 4 0.500
    26 CHARGERS 4 0.511
    27 BILLS 4 0.511
    28 RAIDERS 4 0.523
    29 PATRIOTS 5 0.449

    30 49ERS 5 0.465
    31 LIONS 5 0.543
    32 PACKERS 6 0.489

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    So that currently gives us Top 100 Picks of:

    #20
    #29

    #60
    #61

    #93
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    Great presentation, Mon. Beautifull. :cool:
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    You guys are loading UP on D!! LOVE it!! :rocker:
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    That Huddlereport draft list is way out of whack. GBN has an accurate order up today. We're 23 and 31. Oakland is 20th. So, would be about 52. They base it on records and whether or not you're in the playoffs if season ended today. For example, they have Cincy in playoffs and Pitt out. That will change. But, right now you can only go by current records. Picks 21-32 will be shuffled based on playoff results. But, can't predict order until that happens.

    Great Blue North Draft Report
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    Wrong.

    The Huddle and Great Blue present two different ~ but clearly equally valid ~ interpretations.

    ~ Great Blue ranks them based on the PlayOffs theoretically starting today.

    ~ The Huddle ranks them based on Absolute Record, ignoring current PlayOff standings.

    Considering that there are 10 weeks left, and the last 12 spots won't be determined until January and on, both approaches are, for now, obviously equally useful.

    That's why ~ as you somehow managed to miss ~ I already presented both of them:

    Great Blue North Draft Report

    1 Indianapolis 0-6 .516
    2 Miami 0-5 .567
    3 St. Louis 0-5 .580
    4 Jacksonville 1-5 .495
    5 Carolina 1-5 .516
    6 Minnesota 1-5 .604
    7 Arizona 1-4 .466
    8 Denver 1-4 .607
    9 Philadelphia 2-4 .500
    10 Cleveland 2-3 .483
    11 Seattle 2-3 .489
    12 Dallas 2-3 .522
    13 Kansas City 2-3 .538
    14 Houston 3-3 .418
    15 Cleveland 3-3 .468
    16 NY Jets 3-3 .511
    17 Chicago 3-3 .554
    18 Washington 3-2 .422
    19 Pittsburgh 4-2 .483
    20 Oakland 4-2 .523
    21P Tennessee 3-2 .419
    22P Cincinnati 4-2 .460
    23P New England 4-2 .447
    24P Tampa Bay 4-2 .479
    25P NY Giants 4-2 .500
    26P Buffalo 4-2 .511
    27P Baltimore 4-1 .472
    28P San Diego 4-1 .511
    29P San Francisco 5-1 .465
    30P Detroit 5-1 .543
    31P New England 5-1 .449
    32P Green Bay 6-0 .489

    NFL MOCK DRAFT - THE HUDDLE REPORT

    1 COLTS 0 0.516
    2 DOLPHINS 0 0.567
    3 RAMS 0 0.580
    4 CARDINALS 1 0.466
    5 JAGUARS 1 0.495
    6 PANTHERS 1 0.516
    7 BRONCOS 1 0.600
    8 VIKINGS 1 0.604
    9 BROWNS 2 0.483
    10 SEAHAWKS 2 0.489
    11 EAGLES 2 0.500
    12 COWBOYS 2 0.522
    13 CHIEFS 2 0.538
    14 TEXANS 3 0.418
    15 TITANS 3 0.419
    16 REDSKINS 3 0.422
    17 FALCONS 3 0.468
    18 JETS 3 0.511
    19 BEARS 3 0.554
    20 SAINTS 4 0.447
    21 BENGALS 4 0.460
    22 RAVENS 4 0.472
    23 BUCCANEERS 4 0.479
    24 STEELERS 4 0.483
    25 GIANTS 4 0.500
    26 CHARGERS 4 0.511
    27 BILLS 4 0.511
    28 RAIDERS 4 0.523
    29 PATRIOTS 5 0.449

    30 49ERS 5 0.465
    31 LIONS 5 0.543
    32 PACKERS 6 0.489

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    So according to GBN's "Playoff" Rankings, we're at:

    #23
    #31

    #52
    #63

    #95


    And according to The Huddles's "Absolute Value" Rankings, we're at:

    #20
    #29

    #60
    #61

    #93


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    Obviously, the "PlayOffs start Today" approach will eventually be the only way to go, but by that point, it will presumably be used by both Sites...Meanwhile, the "Absolute" record gives us some intriguing insight that the other doesn't, in my view...Each man can decide for himself which he prefers.

    Personally, I'll be checking both.
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    Love your work once again OTG. I though I'd give it a go.

    1a- DE/OLB- Courtney Upshaw- Alabama

    It seems that Courtney Upshaw is the early favourite to be the board’s major binkie of the 2012 draft and I am certainly jumping on board. Although he lacks the ideal measurable for a Pats OLB, he has the ideal skill set and would be a great addition to this team. Unfortunately his stock is rising, so hopefully the Saints can lose a few to give us a shot at this kid. Another option would be Brandon Jenkins from Florida State.

    1b- Trade for 2nd and 3rd

    I like the players towards the top/middle of the 2nd more than the late 1st, so I would look to move down and grab another pick.

    2a- FS- TJ McDonald- USC

    After watching some tape on the safeties in the offseason, TJ McDonald is the guy that clearly stood out to me and he hasn’t disappointed me yet this year. He has good size and athleticism at 6’3” 205lbs, and has the versatility to play FS and SS. With the Pats tendency to play left and right safety rather than free and strong, I think McDonald is the perfect fit for the defence. He can put on a big hit, and his size makes him a great matchup against TE’s. I think he would really give the secondary a presence.

    2b- DE- Devin Taylor- South Carolina
    Devin Taylor’s stock has been slipping this year and I think it has a lot to do with him being overshadowed by his teammates Javedoen Clowney and Melvin Ingram. I don’t think Taylor is physically ready for the NFL and should stay at South Carolina for another year, but if he does declare I would take shot at him in the 2nd round because of his immense upside. There are questions on where he would play in the NFL after he adds the necessary bulk, but if he can manage to keep his athleticism with the added size, I think he could be a monster 3-4 OLB. He has already shown the ability to play the run and drop into shallow zones, and with some coaching he could be a devastating pass rusher as well. And even if he does lose his athleticism as he bulks up, some believe he could play 3-4 DE.

    2c- Trade for two 3rds

    With no picks after the 4th round and many questions surrounding this team, I would keep going down and adding more picks.

    3a- WR- Dwight Jones- UNC

    With the NFL becoming a pass oriented game, and rules making it difficult for DB’s to play physical, I think the Pats are really missing a big, physical WR to take advantage of that. We have seen some of the bigger WR’s in the AFC give our CB’s some trouble with their size and physicality, either by going up and getting the ball or by drawing a penalty. I think that is something this Pats offence really misses and something that Dwight Jones would be a perfect for at 6’4” 225lbs. He has the size to win contests, as well as the speed and athleticism to beat DB’s and create a threat deep. Before the season started I really liked Jeff Fuller for this role, but he has really disappointed so far and Jones has really stepped up. Unfortunately, if he continues like this he could find himself in the late 1st/early 2nd round.

    3b- DT/DE- Kheeston Randall- Texas
    I mocked Randall to the Pats back in March and I really think he is the best fit as a two-gap 3-4 DE in this draft. He doesn’t offer much in terms of a pass rush, but he is a run stuffer and can take on double teams. He hasn’t lived up to the expectations yet, which is why his stock is falling at the moment, but I think he has the talent to be a good NFL player.

    3c- S- Tony Dye- UCLA
    The last few years we have seen the Pats double dip in the draft, and I think most expect if it is going to happen again, that safety would be the position targeted. Earlier I took a big, physical safety that can match up with TE’s, now I’m taking a smaller, quicker safety to match up with slot receivers. Tony Dye is just a really good all-around safety that can help this team out in a variety of ways. I think a trio of Chung, McDonald and Dye would give the Pats a great amount of versatility in the secondary, and would turn the safety positions into a strength.

    3b- Trade for two 4ths
    Keep adding more picks

    4a- C- David Molk- Michigan
    Dan Connolly has done a very good job stepping in at OC for Dan Koppen. But I still think the Pats need to add a young guy into the mix to add some depth and competition. I haven’t seen a whole lot of Molk this season, but I know a lot of people on this board are high on him and I trust their opinion.

    4b-TE- Michael Williams- Alabama
    I was surprised the Pats cut Crumpler before the season, and I was even more surprised they cut both Yeatman and Smith. I don’t like the idea of only having two TE’s on the roster, especially when Hernandez is virtually a big WR. That where Michael Williams steps in. He has great size at 6’6” 270lbs, and has decent athleticism. He is one of the top blocking TE’s in this draft, but can still contribute a bit in the passing game. He plays at Alabama so you know he is well coached and well prepared.


    4c- TE- Ladarius Green- Louisiana Lafayette

    I know it might seem strange taking another TE, but what I think Green does is continue to add another dimension to the offence. He is raw and really needs to add some bulk at 6’6” 235lbs, but he has a great frame and unlimited potential. He needs some time to develop, especially as a blocker, but as a receiver he could be a mismatch for defences. At the moment he is more like a huge WR, but he could become a Jimmy Graham type TE. Along with Dwight Jones, Green would add some physicality to the Pats offence.
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    Depending on how they run, a draft like this would do wonders for our sorry but improving defense. The only thing better would be if you don't trade that second 1st and take ILB Hightower.

    Absolutely love the Upshaw pick. Besides being a feared pass rusher, he sets a mean edge in the running game. At 260 pounds he is able to stack and shed much bigger O line guys via decent technique. Has dropped into coverage but it's nothing to write home about. Can play ST while learning the nuances of the pro game. Very strong hands which should allow him to start from day 1 of TC. Not the brightest bulb in the building so extra class room time is a must.

    If we could get Taylor in the second round, I would be jumping for joy. He is so fluid and creates huge opportunities for Ingram and Clowney on the other side. I am concerned he has a bit of the chicken leg syndrome that Crable suffered from, but I would much rather have him on our roster for 2012 getting stronger (Nash) and learning the pro game than being in Columbia.
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    An exquisite montage, as always, Brother Wilfork!! :rocker:

    ~ I LOVE your going after two Tight Ends!! As many will doubtlessly remember, I am FANATICAL about getting as many high caliber Tight Ends ~ Flex Ends + Wing Backs ~ as possible: There are the makings of a Revolution, here, if one Coach has the balls to strike!!

    ~ Great Arguments, all around, and particularly regarding Jones.
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    I will be at the Bucs-Bears game in London on Sunday, cheering for the draft pick (i mean Bucs!).

    Livid about the Carson Palmer trade, i think the Raiders got ripped off (who dosn't!), but it may well have a detrimental affect on our #2 pick in the 2012 draft. I hope Palmer is out of shape and off his game!!

    We are also going to be searching for a new trade partner for the #3 pick in 2012 as they might not have a #2 in 2013...
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    I agree with the position asessment. For all the flack we throw at our secondary, McCourty, Bodden, Arrington and Ras-I should be a solid group. With the way the rules are, we cannot expect all DB's to be an Ed Reed/Darelle Revis clone. They need a pash rush to help.

    I think we should double dip at S and also in the Pass rush early on. I agree that the "spine" of the Defence is good, we just need one or two good defensive drafts (or a FA pick up) to help.

    However, our asessment might change down the stretch. Remember the Jets playoff game and the sudden "need" for either V.Jax or Larry Fitz...

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