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  1. reflexblue

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    How ironic and hypocritical, the owner of the Washington times (Sun Myong Moon) to his followers continues to assault Obamas health bill by comparing it to Nazi style euthinasia. He (Moon)is connected to Nazi and war criminal Klaus Barbie the butcher of Lion. Pretty spurious for someone who calles himself the Christ returned.

    WTimes' Hypocritical Obama-Nazi Slur

    ndeed, the Washington Times founder and funder, Sun Myung Moon, built his international religious-business-media empire in collaboration with Japanese fascist war criminals and with operational assistance from ex-Nazi SS officer Klaus Barbie, the so-called “Butcher of Lyon.”

    The 89-year-old Moon also has had close ties to later generations of neo-Nazis and right-wing murderers, especially in Latin America where Moon-related organizations threw in their lot with brutal military dictators including some involved in cocaine trafficking.
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    These rumors are fueled by a few, some of which make mucho bucks off of it... i.e. the K st. Lobbyists, the insurance companies and certain newspapers of the right...

    Personally think that the word Nazi should be retired to the hall of shame, never to be uttered again.. very misunderstood and mis and overused, but some folks who fan flames and have no idea what they are talking about..
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    Oh, my!! Surprise surprise!!! A leftwinger calls someone who challenges the Obama-ites a "Nazi"!!! But, of course! Doesn't everybody know that ANYBODY who exposes the lies and hypocrisy of Obama or anyone else on the left "must be a Nazi"!!!

    The current Roman Catholic Pontiff, Pope Benedict was in the "Hitler Youth" as a teenager .... Jerry Falwell supported the "right-wing death squads" (Miskito Indians) of Nicaragua!! Billy Graham once said that "communism was the work of the devil, Satan", so he, too, "must be a fascist"!! ANYBODY who did not lay down and take it from the Lefties *must* be a "Nazi", goes without saying. :rolleyes:

    All "NAZIs", each and every one.


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    NOW who's "licking the crack pipe"???? :rolleyes:

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    The more I think about this, the more it seems that Nazi is a word they are using instead of N...er... wonder in some pea brains mind that is what is going on..
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    The Nazi Word A Few Years Ago:

    Nancy Pelosi is shocked by the presence of some swastikas at protests against Obamacare. Who ever heard of such a thing? Well, any mildly alert American old enough to remember the anti-war protests of 2003-2007. Images of George Bush with a Hitler mustache and a Nazi uniform was everywhere at swastika-choked marches and rallies. "Stop the Fourth Reich-Visualize Nuremburg," said one sign at a Hollywood march. "The Fuhrer already in his bunker," said another. Lots of Nazi regalia appeared at protests in Pelosi's San Francisco as well.

    On far-left Internet sites, where basic Bush-Is-Hitler commentary became too familiar to attract attention, Bush aides were quickly assigned Nazi roles; Tom Ridge was the new Himmler and Colin Powell became Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop; Ari Fleisher, Karen Hughes and Karl Rove were all Josef Goebbels figures. Some thought Vice President Cheney was the most important Hitler figure - he commands "storm-trooper legions," said famous crackpot Lyndon LaRouche.

    One fevered lefty connected Bush to Nero as well as Hitler, saying "Nero burned Rome, Hitler burned the Reichstag and Bush burned the World Trade Center."

    An even more inventive commenter managed to link Rove to Josef Mengele, the depraved Nazi doctor nicknamed the Angel of Death: "Bush made up stories about John McCain, just as Josef Mengele conducted medical experiments on children in Auschwitz." What?
    AND ON AND ON
    RealClearPolitics - Nancy's Nazi Shock: Did She Forget the Bush Years?
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    Without regard for who said what, Nazi should no longer exist in political circles, by either party.. right now it is being used as a substitute for n...er. What Obama is doing does not come close to NAZISM...
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    Why would anyone use "Nazi" for the "N" word, certanly it wasn't used that way to describe Bush, The Klan, or Cheney....Why suddenly now, is it an attempt to get a little "Race Bait" going, I wouldn't use "Nazi" to describe Obama I would think Castro, Chavez, Marx etc more fitting or even Stalin.............:confused:
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    Quite simply because Obama does not act like a Nazi.... not race baiting at all, speaketh the truth..
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    Oh, I see.............................:confused:
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    Facts are facts and it seems the fact is moon pals around with Nazi's. No one is making the facts up here.
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    Don't you believe in redemption??? Do you think everybody who was ever a Nazi or a communist or a fascist or whatever is eternally doomed because of what they did 60 years ago???

    I don't. Many people repent of their sins and mistakes, then make amends. I've met former Nazis who have, and I've met former communists who have. Pope Benedict has, and so has Mikhail Gorbachev.


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    I agree that "Nazi" has no place in this day and age. It's time both sides stopped the nonsense.


    Foggy, you must also forgive Van Jones, he said he was sorry...
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    And while you're passing out Redemption Stickers, don't forget Teddy and Van Jones.
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    What is ironic about right wingers calling Obama a Nazi, is that Hitler was an extreme right winger in Germany, trying to get rid of gypsies and Jews. The right wing of any nation are the ones who espouse xenophobic ideas and talk about which groups of people are "Real" [insert nationality]". In America you have guys like Pat Buchanan saying America is basically only for and created by old White men.
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    Pat also said essentially, Hitler was a good guy who was drawn into war...

    http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068

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    Do I believe in redemption....YES, but Moon has done nothing for me to believe hes re-deemed himself.

    If hes re-deemed himself why does he call some one Hitler?

    Why does he accumulate wealth on the backs of his followers?

    Why does he try to shape the political landscape in this country and others towards EXCLUSION when the philosophy he claims to follow and preach teaches INCLUSION.

    Your wasting your time trying to convince anybody that Moon has really changed.
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    Uhhh, OK.

    "Dear God: forgive that over-zealous and self-righteous Van Jones. He has NO CLUE as to what he is doing. Amen."


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    Jones: already done.

    Teddy: ..... forgave him personally a long time ago.

    I'm also pleased to no end that he is out of public office. His views of life were severely warped and skewed. He needs re-education in heaven; hope he accepts it.


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    Still blinded by your virulent bigotry and prejudice against religions you don't care to understand and races that are different from you. I pity you.

    I never said Father Moon has changed; he has NO NEED to change; it's the rest of the world that needs to change to God's way. And time waits for no man; we need to seriously reflect on what we need to change within ourselves or the misery we encounter will be dire, and then maybe nonredeemable.

    The people who have redeemed themselves are the former Nazis who made great self-sacrifice to atone for their earlier sins. Like Pope Benedict (former Hitler Youth), former KKK member, Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), and former president of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, I believe anyone can redeem themselves by their sincere efforts and when they receive God's forgiveness (usually predicated on the forgiveness of the people they had harmed).

    The ONLY thing Father Moon wants to "exclude" is what is not of God. Those who act like Hitler -- running roughshod over the constitution and laws of the land -- need to be identified and then STOPPED; that's a HEALTHY thing. "Never again".

    And, like the inalienable rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution for American citizens, Father Moon says we must create a world governance that upholds inalienable rights for all humankind, rights that are derived from God's principles of life, principles that are eternal, unchanging, and absolute.


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    Comrade Obama has a "Dear Freind" the link below says Chavez wants to work with President "Jug Ears" Hugo (Pig Face) Chavez the dictator wants to help our new Prince.

    Chavez once called Bush "The Devil" I was proud of Bush that day if Chavez thought he was the Devil he was doing his job.

    Venezuela's Chavez says hopes can work with Obama | U.S. | Reuters
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    The "Nazi" reference to Obama has come about due to the enormous push by some people (including Obama himself??) to turn this presidency into some kind of personality cult. From the "Obama girl", to the "United States of Obama" podiums and logos everywhere, to the constant signs of "adoration" and stuff like the "Obama Youth" video depicted (now suddenly removed, for some unknown reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI), there are PLENTY of reasons for people to question where all of this is headed.

    No one is immune to arrogance, pride, delusions of grandeur, narcissism and all the other human weaknesses we have seen throughout history. Obama is NOT a perfect man, and thus should keep his self-pride and personal ambitions under control lest he stir up great fear among the people. Having dictators like Castro, Hugo Chavez, Ahmedinejad of Iran, and others in the world singing for Obama's success is a good sign something is rotten in Denmark.



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    Nazi = Government Control

    GET IT
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    Did you ever see a black man described as part of the master race??? they seemed to have idolized a man with teutonic features, stormfront idealizes the same.. not much room for blacks there either..... if you did please share that very obscure Hitler quote....
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    What did Obama say??? Usually a conversation denotes two people...
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    Um, forgive me, I'm new here, but is the same Rev. Moon who refers to himself as "The Messiah" and "The Second Coming of Christ" and who not only believes in world governance but wants to set up that world governance with none other than himself in charge? The same Rev. Moon who has arranged ten of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of marraiges - thus pretty much negating any pretense of choice and/or "inalienable rights" on the part of his followers?

    The same Rev. Moon who, in 2004, declared that he had been "sent to Earth . . . to save the world's six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."

    The same Rev. Moon who takes whatever salaries or monies his followers earn leaving them barely enough to live on while he and his family live in luxury?

    That Reverend Moon?

    And you're worried about Obama's plan to take over the world?????
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    Nope. The person you described above is not someone I have ever met, or would want to meet.

    I know a completely different Father Moon. You can catch a glimpse of him here: Rev. Sun Myung Moon Official Website

    After you have checked that, feel free to ask any specific questions about MY Father Moon.


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    He's afraid to say anything he's in enough sh!t as it is he doesn't need some two bit dictator telling the world he's in love with him.........:stars2:
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    I checked out your link. I remain unimpressed.

    Perhaps you can return the favor, however, and check out the Rev. Moon that Washington met - and tell me how you reconcile the two - the one who talks to you and the one who converses with dead presidents, Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Marx, Hitler and Lenin.

    At the March 23 ceremony in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) wore white gloves and carried a pillow holding an ornate crown that was placed on Moon's head. The Korean-born businessman and religious leader then delivered a long speech saying he was "sent to Earth . . . to save the world's six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."

    Moon has claimed to have spoken in "the spirit world" with all deceased U.S. presidents, Jesus, Moses, Mohammed and others. At the March 23 event, he said: "The founders of five great religions and many other leaders in the spirit world, including even Communist leaders such as Marx and Lenin . . . and dictators such as Hitler and Stalin, have found strength in my teachings, mended their ways and been reborn as new persons."


    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61932-2004Jun22.html]The Rev. Moon Honored at Hill Reception (washingtonpostdotcom)
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    For a second I thought you were talking about yourself Foggy. The Moonie himself. :D
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    What is ironic about right wingers calling Obama a Nazi, is that Hitler was an extreme right winger in Germany

    Hitler a right winger? The word "NAZI" comes from NSDAP, which stands for National Socialist German Workers Party. The Nazis were all about big government, the people criticizing Obama favor small government.

    Please get your facts straight.

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