Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by IcyPatriot, May 15, 2012.
Wrong man was executed in Texas, probe says - Yahoo! News
I saw that this morning. It's not the first time and it won't be the last. It's one of the reasons I'm against the death penalty.
This is my issue with the Death Penalty.
By and large, I feel there are certain crimes that, by committing them, said perp has given up their privilege to breathe oxygen like the rest of us.
However, there has to be beyond any shred of doubt that they are in fact a guilty person; caught in the act, DNA or any other form of scientific testing that is beyond my knowledge etc
If one innocent person is executed, then the whole system is suspect in my opinion.
yeah, well, there's your "even one man."
Life w/o parole would be the ideal way to deal with the worst crimes, assuming that even the possibility would be off the table.
I have never believed in the death penalty unless it is a premeditated murder and is proven "WITHOUT A DOUBT" that the accused is guilty.
I firmly believe that Timothy McVeigh, Serial Killers and people like them should be killed immediately following their conviction "the same day" Jeffrey Dahmer should have recieved the death penalty but of course the Killers he was in jail with took care of him.
The system we now have will kill more innocents in the future.
what the hey...it's only one guy.
It's actually inexcuseable....what really makes me angry is the fact we're getting conditioned to news like this.
Rick Perry On Death Penalty And 'Ultimate Justice' - YouTube
Wait did you mean...
I don't think them there foreign courts have jurisdiction...*
*to be clear, my opposition to the death penalty extends even to this guy. But then, I'm biased... no problem with whacking Bin Laden, and the poor guy didn't even get a trial... haul out your ACLU cards and make a case!
Bin Laden should have been tied to the back of a NYC Fire Truck and dragged all over Manhattan until there was nothing left but a little piece of bone.
I would rather refer to this situation as 'collateral damamge'
if you want to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs
it is god's will
the guy probably deserved it anyway. he either had sex with his sister or brother, and killed the neighbors dog......maybe even in a previous life
maybe he was going to do something and the 'error' saved an innocent life that we are not aware of
c'est la vie.......I'm going to make myself a grilled cheese sandwich
LOL....I would prefer to set him loose in the castro with nothing but a pair of assless chaps
Ah, the logical extension of the know-nothing mentality. Kill em all and let God sort 'em out.
If you have kids, and one is murdered, do you think it's a good thing because he "might have" messed up later in life?
You can argue what you like in a lot of ways, but "it's good for the state to murder an innocent man because he might have done -- or might later do -- something or other" is not a very strong case.
Its funny because its actually the inner monologue of Rick Perry.
Wait, what, that was serious?
Oh heckfire I failed to recognize the satire. Now I feel like a big dumas.
Been there, done that too....
You just have to tell yourself...."I am a good person and gosh-darnit, I deserve it!" over and over again.
No one's perfect...and I've found there's nothing more wasteful in life in making any effort to be perfect.
My Jean Paul Satre for today....
atta boy.....I knew you'd come around
I though the grilled cheese sandwich was sufficient......
time to go drive around the old folks home beeping my horn
The prosecutor/DA should suffer some kind of consequence for this kind of screw up. Maybe they wouldn't be in such a gosh darn hurry to kill somebody if they had to go to jail.
This stuff happens too often..
Life without parole, is a less expensive, much better option...
Where is the judeo christian ethic, that we often hear in these arguments???
Or perhaps it is based on the old testament??.. that seems to happen often.
I really have an aversion to pedophile/murderers though, people who rape and kill kids deserve what ever they get. Example the two guys in Conn. who tortured, raped and killed those two girls and their mother, to me they deserved the death penalty.
We could solve this problem if everyone just stayed the christ out of Texas.
As do I, but cannot have situational rage.. doing time is usually not the most pleasant experience for guys like this, either pc for life or hard time in the yard.
I'm cool with the life without parole idea Darryl.
I would make one caveat though.
When "fresh fish" shows up at the prison gates, there should be a public announcement of who the fresh fish are and what they are there for; let the "justice system" in the prison take it from there.
and give up texas-sized steaks?
do you know how much keeping an inmate incarcerated for 60-80 years costs?
The Dixie Chicks are from Austin yaknow.
Depending on your perspective, it is either cheaper or more costly than the death penalty...You can find arguments on both sides..
Does the death penalty cost less than life in prison without parole? - Death Penalty - ProCon.org
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sounds to me like we need to simplify the process........maybe make some money off of the killings by creating a public spectacle.....our society is not above having such graphic entertainment. I know I would watch a body twitch and writhe until every ounce of live has been sucked from it regardless of whether the killing was one that involved pain or not.
in fact, the process of providing death should have options depending on the conditions of the crime that warranted the sentence. for example, if it was a rape and murder, then the punishment should be provided in the most painful manner possible.....through the genitals.
the REAL problem here is that our punishments have failed in their purpose of acting as a deterrent. In order to 'rehabilitate' a criminal, it may be more effective to provide punishments so heinous that the criminal would stand to be 'rehabilitated' before ever commiting the crime.
corporal punishments for the purpose of providing massive amounts of pain prior to the actual killing would be the most effective deterrent
Death penalty has not deterred crime all that much...
It is the constitution and supreme court that dictates how we need to proceed... here is a case that I was subpoened on by the defense, but refused to do so because it was the murder of a correctional officer.. probably would have refused anyways, without regard for the charge..
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