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    In 11 years, 9 AFC East Championships. In 9 years, the #1 seed 4 times, 12+ wins 6 times, 13+ wins 5 times. 27-5 over the last 2 years. Playoff success is what we want this year for sure, but give thanks for an era that really has only been reserved for this length of time, especially if you extend it back to 1994, for the Landry era in Dallas, the Raiders from 65 to 85, and the 49ers 81-98 run. As a kid I couldn't even imagine this for the New England Patriots.
     
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    Really! Back to back #1 seeds and there are losers out their ranking on Belichick and Brady, like the Patriots would be any better than 5-11 without either one. Stupid Boston fans.
     
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    No doubt that these have been the best years to be a Pats fan because of these two men. On that same token, there's also no doubt that we haven't won a Super Bowl in 8 years or a playoff game in 4. As appreciative as I am, the real FAN in me wants to see the latter two streaks end.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about?
     
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    There were a lot of topics on here calling for Belichicks head after the back to back losses.
     
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    hopefully that streak ends this year..if not...its going to haunt these players
     
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    7 years not 8 - our last title was Feb 2005. We have a solid chance this year.
     
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    They got knocked out in the first round of the playoffs the last two years!

    That's all that matters!

    *sarcasm*
     
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    And in one of the years that they didn't finish atop the AFC East, they went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at QB.

    Bizarre how multiple 8-8 and 7-9 teams have made the playoffs the last few years, while 11-5 Patriots were frozen out.
     
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    Also, Steve Spagnoulo lost 1 more regular season game in his 3 seasons as HC of STL as BB has lost as HC of the Patriots!

    I was amazed when I read that stat!
     
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    just they way things fell that year..rare..but it happens
     
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    It is amazing. Long time Pats fans know what a struggle it has been being a Pats fan. There were a few good years: 76, 78, 85 and 86 and the mid 90's but that was it. Those good years were always associated with a 2-4 win season before or after. The Pats of today are nothing like the Pats of old.
     
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    I heard the factoid that there are only six teams in NFL history that won 27 regular season games over the course of two consecutive seasons. Four of those teams are Belichick led Patriots teams.
     
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    Thanks for the reminder. While I'm sympathetic to being impatient that it's been a while since the last Playoff win, the Belichick/Brady era, with four Super Bowl appearances and three victories over a seven year period, is one of the greatest in the history of the NFL.

    I looked back at the other great HC/QB combinations.

    Lombardi and Starr went to six NFL Championship Games, winning five, over an eight year period, including the first two SB's. They remain the gold standard for longevity and championships.

    Landry and Staubach went to four SB's together over an eight year period, winning two. Landry himself went to five over nine years, still with a total of two wins.

    Noll and Bradshaw set the gold standard for "compacted excellence" by winning four in six years.

    Walsh and Montana went to and won three over an eight year period; Joe won one more with Seifert, who won another with Steve Young five years later (Seifert is the only HC with two rings who is not in Canton, probably because the CW has it that he inherited the final Walsh/Montana team).

    "Gibbs I" went to four SB's over ten years, winning three, but did so with three different QB's.

    Cowher went to two SB's over an eleven year period, winning one, but also with different QB's.

    Aikman went to three SB's, winning them all, over a four year period, but did so with two different HC's after Jerry Jones threw a hissy fit and fired Jimmy Johnson, to his everlasting regret.

    Elway is the only QB to appear in SB's separated by more than eight years, going to five over a 13 year period, but did so with two different HC's, losing three with Reeves and winning two with Shanahan.

    Roethlisberger has gone to three SB's over a five year period, winning two, but with two different HC's.


    So, Belichick and Brady have the chance to do something that no other HC/QB combinatioin has ever done: win multiple Super Bowls together with over a decade passing between the first and most recent wins. If they can do it this year, it will be five SB's and four Lombardi's over 11 years, a record that I would dare to say would stand for a long, long time.
     
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    All this was accomplished with a Salary Cap even
    more impressive.
    :rocker:
     
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    Yes, I like having a winning team year in and year out. Okay?
     
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    TBH, that's like touting that the Pats are "only" the second worst passing defense of all time when talking about the Green Bay pass defense. Seven years is still a long time. I would very much like to see both streaks end this postseason, as I'm sure everyone here does.
     
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    Seven years is an eternity when your twenty-something...

    When you grow up you will recall it fondly as if it was just yesterday...
     
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    How is this at all relevant to my point? Either way, I still remember it fondly. I just want to see Brady get one more before the window closes.

    EDIT: By the way, it's you're*. As in: You're never too old for a twenty-something to teach you something new. :cool:
     
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