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  1. PATRIOTS-80

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    We need to find a #2 WR in FA that is a durable, 1,000 yard guy that can be a good transition for a rookie such as Golden Tate.

    Any ideas? :D
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    Mason is the only one left I can see BB going after.
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    Mason has less miles on him than Randy Moss. I could see a 2 year contract.

    Derrick Mason

    Mason didn't really start games until 2000/2001. Moss of course started in 1998.
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    I think Moss is a solid #1 and Edelman will be good in the slot. If we can find a #2, Tate can probably be the #4.

    WR's ( Boldin, Burleson, Walter ) went pretty quick yesterday. There is Chris Chambers, who was cut by the Chargers last season. There is Antonio Bryant, who has been a locker room problem at times. There is T.O and Derrick Mason, but they are both 36 years old.

    Randle El has caught 50 or more balls three consecutive years and he is only 30 years old, so I guess he gets my vote. Reluctantly.
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    Josh Reed has never gotten 600 yards in a year. Not exactly a #2 guy, IMHO.
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    Randel El would be a good #2.
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    Focus on the draft. The Patriots have plenty of ammo.

    Trading down or up or trading Adalius for a 4th will give them plenty of picks.

    You can do this: drop down from 22 to 32 for a 3rd. Trade 44 and 47 for a 1st and 3rd. Trade Adalius for a 4th or 5th.

    The Patriots can literally make all sorts of maneuvers to end up with a draft day haul like this:

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    2nd:
    5X

    3rd:
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    Adalius

    This is the deepest draft for WRs that I can remember. If a kid like Damian Williams is there in the 2nd, you might take him. Otherwise you can wait until the 3rd for say Mardy Gilyard and then go WR again in the 4th or 5th. There are plenty of guys available this draft, and if you bust on one, you'll hit on another. That's how deep it is.

    By the way, Mardy is not going to bust in the NFL, and neither is Golden tate.

    I can't guarantee you that Damian Williams will pan out, but the kid looks good.

    There are bust potentials in guys like Arrelious Benn and Brandon LaFell but that wouldn't necessarily dissuade me from taking them.
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    and Adalius Thomas, did not start more then 3 games untill he's 3rd year in the NFL how did that work out.


    when your old your old playing time dose not mean a thing. and mason is 36 i can see hime haveing maybe 60 rec and 700 yerds this year. pretty good #3 but aftter that he is done.
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    Adalius' problem is not that he is old. :D
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    We need short term FA starters, with rookies to replace them.
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    We need TO. :p
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    Mason would be an amazing pick up..... He is exactly what we need, a great route runner. The perfect backside complement to Moss. I prefer him to anyone available, that included Boldin. I hope him and his wife decide to come here this time around!
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    Mason would be the ideal stop gap along with Patten giving us two guys who play the game the way it should be, all in, and one thoroughly familiar with the system. Branch would be another stop gap who could easily be the #2 heading into this season and #3-4 if there is a 2011 season or in 2012 if not. Mason may not have more than a year left, Patten may not have that. But Mason is durable and while he's taken a beating of late he still muster's game (or as our QB says he pushes through it). That makes him a shining example for some youngsters like Tate and hopefully a second round WR...

    If we entered the season with Moss, Mason, Branch, Edleman and Tate/Rookie/Patten we'd be in good shape pending a midseason or even later return of Welker. And if there is a 2011 we'd be entering that season with Welker, Branch, Edleman, Tate and a second year WR...
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    I like you post. I think there is great value in a guy like Mason who is smart enogh and good enough to do his job and for a reasonable price.

    there are tons of guys in the draft...blair white in the 5th/6th...a guy from central michigan forgot his name but he had 300 all purpose yards in his bowl game against troy in the 5th 6th...damien williams i THINK would be good in the 2nd.

    Carlton Mitchell in the 2nd, would be good I believe.
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    Agreed ... but I think we'll have 6 WR on the 53 this year. Just my honest guess.

    Mason seems to fit the bill. But we need to spend a high draft pick on a rookie WR, IMHO, for the long term.
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    Did something happen to Tully Banta-Cain and Pierre Woods? Heck maybe Burgess. We need rookies who will take over from those two.

    And since we have no other options, we will have rookies starting at OLB as well. Not so sure about DE unless Odrick gets chosen, but Pryor and/or Wright will fill that spot in the meantime.

    TE I can see going into FA for.

    But like it or not, we have 4 picks that are the equivalent of first rounders.
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    Is Mason really our last best available FA option? How can we be sure he's not the next Galloway? To make it worse, Mason was never really a burner in the first place.
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    The only question is whether Mason is willing to come to Boston. Last time, he was not willing. It is not about money or interest by the patriots.
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    Because Galloway broke down the year before the Pats signed him. Galloway was a burner, but lost it. Mason always got separation by being a tough guy and positioning for the ball. So to answer your question, Mason is good at positioning for the ball.

    Joey Galloway
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    After pissing away what would have been the perfect #2 in Boldin, my hope is as follows:

    1. Deal our high #2 for Brandon Marshall, ink him long term, eat the heavy Moss/Marshall salaries for only one year and let Randy walk after the season, now we have the younger Marshall as TB's #1 to finish his career over the next 5 years. Hello Superbowl.......

    2. Bring in TO and enjoy a circus-like, carnival-like, unstoppable offense for the 2010-2011 NFL season. How fun would that be. Deal with potential headaches and have a freakin ball watching this offense steamroll people, including the Jets. Doing this would require us to draft a Golden Tate or Damien Williams to groom into that #1 role.

    3. Bring in Mason (and this is option 3). Although he's not Boldin, he would be a decent compliment to Moss and a proven vet who runs precise routes, gets open with good hands.

    4. Option 4, do nothing, draft a WR and basically hand the Jets the division title, without a proven #2, Fat Rex will literally have his way with us. I can see the fat ba$tard laughing already as he's completely shutting us down with his revamped secondary and pressure defense.
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    I can't believe Pete Carroll would want a prima dona who fights with his coach, dogs it in practice cuz he's unhappy with his contract, etc.

    Oh wait, I guess I can. Two words. Pete Carroll. :D
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    Galloway and the class of aging vets may of left of sour taste in BBs mouth. Though he hasn't done too well drafting WRs either.
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    Number 2 would be the best on the field, but people here are just scared of the chemistry. T.O would probably cost 4-6 mil, so money isn't a problem either. I hope number 2 happens.
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    Moss and TO? I think I would be more afraid of that than Moss and Mason. :D Number two option would give me a heart attack. :D
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