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    would be rediculously SICK in our spread offense.
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    Re: WR Jeremy Macklin

    I have been thinking about WR possibly being great value, not necessarly a need but Mackin, Crabtree, Harvin, etc. would make pretty good 3rd WRs.
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    Re: WR Jeremy Macklin

    no thank you on Harvin...i don't like Florida WRs as they don't translate into good NFL WRs.
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    Re: WR Jeremy Macklin

    He may go to Missouri but he plays for the Univ. of Florida Gators
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    Re: WR Jeremy Macklin

    im not on the WR bandwagon by any means but if Maclin was on the board wherever we pick you got to seriously look at him. This guy is a stud and would be absolutely insane in our pass happy spread offense. I could see him upgrading Gaffney as the #2 opposite Moss not necessarily the #3 WR. Plus he could give us some kick and punt return use.
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    agreed thats what i was thinking. If we are picking late teens or early 20's and Maclin is on the board and the stud corners/tackles/linebackers are already gone it would be very tempting to pick him as best value on the board.
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    Briz, whats up with you and the LITTLE guys?? WR and CB have a higher % of flops/boom-bust types which can kill a draft or a team(see Detroit). They are BARELY football players,lol.
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    Briz - You need to remember that value isn't just based on the physical and intangible assets that the player has, but also on the need of the team. My guess is that WR isn't going to be considered a big need on this team in comparison to Safety, ILB, OLB, CB, OT, OG, DE, and NT. Just like RB isn't going to be considered a big need.

    P.S. - Is Maclin eligible for this year's draft?
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    no *****, i know Macklin goes to mizzu, i was talking about Harvin. cstjohn17 mention Harvin and i am against drafting a WR from Florida.

    Macklin would be nice, but i think our priorities elsewhere
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    I think the Patriots need to look strongly at upgrading the no.3 WR position. I wouldn't love spending a no.1 on a WR, but I wouldn't hate it either. This team starts 3 WR, so the Pats no.3 WR needs to be a guy that would start for a number of teams who run a base 2 WR set.

    Outside of an upgrade to the Oline (I'd like to see a more physical/nasty guy added to help the run game), I think WR is the biggest need for this offense. We need a 2nd guy who can make a big play down the field pretty badly.
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    When discussing WR prospects for the Pats, you are prohibited from using those words...
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    I have to agree 100%. And I think Macklin would struggle running routes and reading defenses in an option offense like ours.
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    Re: WR Jeremy Macklin

    Are you insinuating that Chad Jackson wasn't a good NFL WR?

    How dare you!
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    I'm not sold on Maclin. College WRs, RBs, QBs, etc are crowned by ESPN every year to be these amazing athletes. And the majority of them do jack in the pros. Maclin just seems like he's a bit overhyped because he plays in a high octane offense. There's plenty of talented and physically gifted receivers that aren't playing on great teams. I'd rather see the Patriots try to develop someone then blowing a first on a WR. I mean look at #1, #2 WRs from the past few years. None of them are putting up spectacular numbers.
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    You need to do a re-check before you say NONE of them are putting up spectacular numbers. Calvin Johnson is doing a helluva job considering he has no QB throwing to him. Santonio Holmes says hi.

    WRs and RBs are a crap shoot. Everyone knows that. Everyone thought that the Patriots stole Chad Jackson when they originally drafted him. And he busted because of injuries and his inability to earn the trust of the QB plus his slowness in learning the play-book.
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    Both of them are the number 1 or 2 receivers on those teams. We are talking about spending a number one draft pick on a guy that will be number 3 for awhile.
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    So, now you backpedal from your statement in a futile attempt to justify your gross exaggerations. Listen, I don't think Maclin fits into the Pats system. Nor do I feel that the Patriots are going to spend another 1st round pick on a skill position when they regularly draft players a year in advance of when they need them for the lines.

    And no, "WE" were not talking about spending a 1st round pick on Maclin. BRIZ was doing that. And you were just throwing out gross exaggerations.
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    I'm not backpedaling from anything because it's the truth. Calvin Johnson is the #1 guy on the Lions and Holmes is #2 for the Steelers. And you think I'm exaggerating? Go back from the past five years and find all the receivers drafted in the first two rounds. More often then not they are putting up subpar numbers. Some aren't even playing. Just because two guys are playing well doesn't mean every WR drafted is some kind of instant lock. If you really want to go by stats you're flat out wrong. Because theres more flops than the two successes you pointed out, with Johnson being a top five pick anyways.
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    Your binky looked pretty good last night Briz.
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    Yes, you DID backpedal and now you are attempting to spin your way out of your gross exaggeration. Just admit that you screwed the pooch here when you said "..ook at #1, #2 WRs from the past few years. None of them are putting up spectacular numbers.". I point out 2 instances and you spin it that they are the top receivers on their team as if that doesn't contradict what you said. I have news for you. It does contradict what you said and it shows you made a gross exaggeration.


    I don't need to go back through the past 5 years of the draft to look at all the receivers who were taken and what their numbers are. Why? Because I only need to point out ONE that makes your claim of NONE to be wrong.

    No where did I say anything about WRs who were drafted high to being locks. On the contrary. Here is what I said:
    I lit into you for telling us what everyone on this board already knows. You didn't offer up anything NEW in regards to WRs being a crap shoot.

    Instead of attemtping to spin your way out of it, just admit that you mispoke when you said NONE and move on. Don't sit there and make it worse by trying to spin your way out of it. It makes you look like a fool.
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    Briz after i was all for that bust Chad Jackson and seeing how he was sent packing...i got a little down on WR's which is by far my favorite position on the Football Field. I have to admit though one have to blind not to see all World Potential in Jeremy Maclin. Doesn't he look like Indy's WR Reggie Wayne? i don't think we can go wrong there if he's around. I am glad some of us around here not u BRiZ ain't running the Patriots war room. Just by looking at his number and his consistency WR Jeremy Maclin looks like a sure thing.
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    I think WR is a definite need and I'll be surprised if they don't do something in the draft to upgrade the position. Moss will be 32 next year and injuries come a lot easier to aging legs. They need another player with #1 talent IMO. If Moss goes down it won't be pretty and Brady might need seven seconds(exagerration) to find an open player with Welker being doubled. Not something you want your Qb and best player to have to do coming off knee surgery. Gaffney, Slater and Aiken don't have big time skills and Gaffney might be gone unless they can live with the drops and resign him. He's the best of those three but not a #1 or #2.
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    We can all pretty much forget about Maclin. Coyle has him going to the Raiders with the 4th pick.
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    A player to keep an eye on at WR is OSU's Sammie Stroughter. He's got an NFL body, is tough, can block and runs well. He doesn't have the elite speed of Maclin but did a good job returning punts. Oh and one thing the Pats can use...good hands. Check him out at Youtube, he looks like a Hines Ward type and he also had a good day yesterday against Pitt. He came back from a lacerated kidney so that may keep him off some boards or lower than he should be talent-wise. Not sure about any other issues.
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    I still don't see WR being such a need that the Patriots need to expend a high draft pick or a draft pick at all on it. There is a lot of WR talent available this off-season. Also, the Pats have only had success with one 2nd round WR they drafted and that was Deion Branch. Now, I don't know if they can have Brady around to throw passes to a player during a workout, but if they can, then they need to do that when considering a WR. Because that was supposedly the whole issue with Jackson is that Brady couldn't get comfortable throwing to him. I don't know if Brady took the time with Jackson that he did with Reche Caldwell to help build that trust, but its something to consider going forward. IF its allowed.

    WR is actually a pretty weak position this year unless more juniors declare. Maclin, being a 3rd year Sophomore, will probably be at the top of the WR rankings, but I doubt he's worth the 4th over-all pick. And, if Al Davis makes that pick, the league should really take the team away from him or have him declared mentally unfit or something.
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    We'll know more when players finally declare. Right now I don't see anyone that would be worth the 24th pick if that's what they end up with. In a perfect world I'd like to see them get a player with #1 skills but right now I'm basically looking at lower round players that could turn into good value. Stroughter looks like that kind of a player if he's there in the 6th round where Coyle has him. Mainly I like his toughness and hands. It's a wait and see how he times later deal although Coyle has him listed at a low of 4.37, He didn't look that fast to me but TAKE HIM if he runs that fast. I still see the need to do something to give Brady another legit weapon. Antonio Bryant??? BB has dealt with supposed head cases before with success.
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    You know your stuff KraftyOne, i had Sammy Stroughter on a Sleepers list i was going to compile.
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    Maclin at #4 would be a HUGE reach.
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