WR Brandon Marshall 6'6"

[Box_O_Rocks]

http://www.couchscout.com/6wr.htm

WR ranking 54 --MARSHALL Brandon -University of Central Florida 6-4.3...222...4.72 -------- 332.44 Great Size, can catch Inside, Solid on Defense in 04

I don't know how old that write-up is, but he's in the Hula Bowl listed at 6'6". He reportedly awed the scouts and coaches with his performance in practice and he was the target of choice for the QB making some nice grabs. He beat press coverage with a nice physical move to score a touchdown. He also made a nice grab on a throw into double coverage where he caught the ball knowing he was going to be hit. He catches with his hands and he's strong.

What makes his really great from a Patriots' perspective, he played FS his junior year to help his team out - and led the team in tackles. He's a 1,000 yd receiver coming out his senior year. He was interviewed after his TD catch and told the sideline reporter playing FS helped him learn to be more physical as a WR and gave him a greater appreciation on how a WR could attack a defense. :rocker:


Another scouting report from Sept 5, 2005:
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=99

"This is a former defensive back that shows the physical toughness needed from his former position and he uses on the field these days.
He has the size, speed, burst and nice pass catching skills you would hope for, I also like his aggressiveness and lack of hesitation to get upfield after the catch, but I would like to see more (YAC) yards after contact and make things happen with more creativity."

UCF played their first bowl game ever in Hawaii against Neveda (who beat Fresno State the week after they played USC so tough). UCF put up a very good fight and nearly won the game if I remember correctly. Their coach is the one who lost his Notre Dame gig for fabricating his resume, he spent several years on Tice's staff in Minnesota.

Isn't this Asante's college?

 

[big mike]

I saw only the first drive of that game, and he definitely was the standout from the little I saw. Unfortunately that might move him up quite a bit in the draft. He does look like he'd be a good fit here, although I still think getting younger at LB and RB might be the biggest needs. Depending on who is re-signed at WR though, it could be a need.

 

[broadwayjoe]

Yeah I noticed this guy also he would be a good pickup for whoever drafts him and hopefully it is the Pats. I think the coach you are referring to is George O'Leary.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Yeah I noticed this guy also he would be a good pickup for whoever drafts him and hopefully it is the Pats. I think the coach you are referring to is George O'Leary.

Sounds right Joe, I know I actually had some momentary respect for Tice when I learned he was smart enough to give this guy a chance on the rebound off the Notre Dame error. Nice to see him bounce back and take his little school to a bowl game.

 

[bosfan]

The Huddle likes this guy a lot, claims he has first round talent and expects him to climb up the ratings after draft workouts.

 

[marty]

The Huddle likes this guy a lot, claims he has first round talent and expects him to climb up the ratings after draft workouts.

This guy sounds really sweet! Chances are that he'll go higher than we could get him tho'!

 

[TruthSeeker]

I became a Brandon Marshall fan after watching him catch 11 passes for 210 yards and 3 TD's in a bowl game loss to Nevada (great game, 49-48 final). Man this guy was dominating, and I doubt he runs a 4.72, probably a 4.6 at worst. He looked like a gamebreaker, and I wrote that name down immediatly. He is definately my sleeper pick, and I was hoping ONLY the Pats scouting staff would know about him, lol.

 

[drew4008]

He played too agreesively, and in the NFL would draw many PI calls. He's also pretty slow, and remember who he was playing against, the Hula Bowl has much weaker competition than the Shrine game adn especially the Senior Bowl. Early Day 2 prospect, may slip into Round 3 if he runs well. And he's 6"4, not 6"6.

 

[jcalverley]

Arizona Cardinals!

He will be surprize pick of the Arizona Cardinals. Dont they pick a receiver every year with their first Pick? DUH HUH.

 

[AzPatsFan]

http://www.couchscout.com/6wr.htm

WR ranking 54 --MARSHALL Brandon -University of Central Florida 6-4.3...222...4.72 -------- 332.44 Great Size, can catch Inside, Solid on Defense in 04

I don't know how old that write-up is, but he's in the Hula Bowl listed at 6'6". He reportedly awed the scouts and coaches with his performance in practice and he was the target of choice for the QB making some nice grabs. He beat press coverage with a nice physical move to score a touchdown. He also made a nice grab on a throw into double coverage where he caught the ball knowing he was going to be hit. He catches with his hands and he's strong.

What makes his really great from a Patriots' perspective, he played FS his junior year to help his team out - and led the team in tackles. He's a 1,000 yd receiver coming out his senior year. He was interviewed after his TD catch and told the sideline reporter playing FS helped him learn to be more physical as a WR and gave him a greater appreciation on how a WR could attack a defense. :rocker:


Another scouting report from Sept 5, 2005:
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=99

"This is a former defensive back that shows the physical toughness needed from his former position and he uses on the field these days.
He has the size, speed, burst and nice pass catching skills you would hope for, I also like his aggressiveness and lack of hesitation to get upfield after the catch, but I would like to see more (YAC) yards after contact and make things happen with more creativity."

UCF played their first bowl game ever in Hawaii against Neveda (who beat Fresno State the week after they played USC so tough). UCF put up a very good fight and nearly won the game if I remember correctly. Their coach is the one who lost his Notre Dame gig for fabricating his resume, he spent several years on Tice's staff in Minnesota.

Isn't this Asante's college?

Why would you want a WR S-L-O-W-E-R than your TEs?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Why would you want a WR S-L-O-W-E-R than your TEs?

How kind of you to inquire.

As Scott Pioli's mentor in the art of drafting I spend countless hours reviewing player information to counsel Scott on each aspect of every player. It has been my policy to de-emphasize combine measurables and put more study into a player's ability to, well, 'make plays' as it were.

You are undoubtedly correct to caution against players who may be too slow for professional football, I have made a notation to carefully check Mr. Marshall's pro-day results. Perhaps I should invite him to the combine...I should discuss this with Bill Polian and Tom Donahoe when we tee off today.

Thank you for calling this matter to my attention.

Cordially,

B. O'Rocks

 

[Rene Vallieres]

Need some info about 2005 draft

Does anyone know what happened to the patriots 2nd round draft choice last year?? All I know is they traded it to Baltimore. But for what?? Was it part of a player trade?? Did they get anything for it?? Thanks.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Does anyone know what happened to the patriots 2nd round draft choice last year?? All I know is they traded it to Baltimore. But for what?? Was it part of a player trade?? Did they get anything for it?? Thanks.

Ellis Hobbs III and Baltimore's third round selection this year. They got a back-up T from Syracuse.

 

[Mulehead]

Why would you want a WR S-L-O-W-E-R than your TEs?

At the Hula Bowl he was getting behind CBs all day. In college he also did that plenty. Like Scott99 said, I really doubt he runs anywhere near a 4.72/40. Draft sites this time of year don't know what his 40 time is. They're just guessing, like everyone else. I'm eagerly awaiting some combine or pro-day results on Marshall.

He's no Deion Branch, but a sub-4.6/40 sounds very possible to me. And a 6'5" redzone threat doesn't necessarily need to be a blazer.

 

[TruthSeeker]

At the Hula Bowl he was getting behind CBs all day. In college he also did that plenty. Like Scott99 said, I really doubt he runs anywhere near a 4.72/40. Draft sites this time of year don't know what his 40 time is. They're just guessing, like everyone else. I'm eagerly awaiting some combine or pro-day results on Marshall.

He's no Deion Branch, but a sub-4.6/40 sounds very possible to me. And a 6'5" redzone threat doesn't necessarily need to be a blazer.

Jerry Rice ran a 4.6. I bet Deion runs a 4.5. Anything under 4.5 is blazing fast. Deion is more quick (and smart) than fast. He is a sneaky zone breaking WR. I love the way Deion plays, but what do I know, I hated the pick at the time. Deion was rated as a 7th rounder in the predraft guides.

Deion Branch | WR | Louisville | Conference USA
Selected by New England Patriots in round 2, pick 33 (65 overall)
Height Weight 40 Grade
5'9 191 4.46 3.53
Junior-college transfer that led the team in receiving and was an All-Conference selection both years he was in the program. Totaled 72/1,188/16.5/9 last year also averaging 10/11.2/1 returning punts. Totaled 71/1,016/14.3/9 receiving as a junior, with 7/5.7/0 returning punts.
Natural receiver that also excels as a return specialist. Fluid releasing off the line of scrimmage, displays quickness running his routes and comes back to the ball using his body to shield away opponents or protect the pass. Sees the field, reads the defense and consistently finds the open spot on the field. Works his way back to the ball and makes himself an available target for the quarterback. Goes over the middle and makes the tough grab in traffic. Displays a burst of speed, catches the pass in stride and adjusts nicely to the errant throw in mid air. Works to keep the play in bounds and pick up positive yardage running after the catch. More quick than fast; lacks the deep speed down the flanks and not stretching the defense. Has difficulty in battles with bigger opponents and lacks the strong hands, showing a necessity to clutch the ball against his frame at times. Could be a solid slot receiver for a team and a prospect whose duties also lie on special teams. Early Sixth Round.


2001 Receiving Statistics
Receptions Receiving Yards Yards Per Reception Touchdowns
78 1276 16.4 10

 

[AzPatsFan]

Jerry Rice ran a 4.6. I bet Deion runs a 4.5. Anything under 4.5 is blazing fast. Deion is more quick (and smart) than fast. He is a sneaky zone breaking WR. I love the way Deion plays, but what do I know, I hated the pick at the time. Deion was rated as a 7th rounder in the predraft guides.

Deion Branch | WR | Louisville | Conference USA
Selected by New England Patriots in round 2, pick 33 (65 overall)
Height Weight 40 Grade
5'9 191 4.46 3.53
Junior-college transfer that led the team in receiving and was an All-Conference selection both years he was in the program. Totaled 72/1,188/16.5/9 last year also averaging 10/11.2/1 returning punts. Totaled 71/1,016/14.3/9 receiving as a junior, with 7/5.7/0 returning punts.
Natural receiver that also excels as a return specialist. Fluid releasing off the line of scrimmage, displays quickness running his routes and comes back to the ball using his body to shield away opponents or protect the pass. Sees the field, reads the defense and consistently finds the open spot on the field. Works his way back to the ball and makes himself an available target for the quarterback. Goes over the middle and makes the tough grab in traffic. Displays a burst of speed, catches the pass in stride and adjusts nicely to the errant throw in mid air. Works to keep the play in bounds and pick up positive yardage running after the catch. More quick than fast; lacks the deep speed down the flanks and not stretching the defense. Has difficulty in battles with bigger opponents and lacks the strong hands, showing a necessity to clutch the ball against his frame at times. Could be a solid slot receiver for a team and a prospect whose duties also lie on special teams. Early Sixth Round.


2001 Receiving Statistics
Receptions Receiving Yards Yards Per Reception Touchdowns
78 1276 16.4 10

If I recall corrrectly Jerry Rice was timed at 4.55 This caused a lot of commotion since it didn't square with his college production. But he was 6-2 and 205,very smooth and as fast into his cuts as someone much faster. That is a hell of a big difference than 4.7+. Rice had tremendous hands and body control too.

I get very tired about draftniks who talk about 6-4 guys who can catch the "fade" . Just how many opportunities a a season are there for that play? 2 ? 3 ? 4? Ridiculous. I want to know as a slower "possession receiver whether he runs precise routes and can get separation for a few steps off his cut. He'll do thjat 60 or 100 times a season. Otherwise he belongs in NFLE only.