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  1. shmessy

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    #75 Jersey

    Note the tilted wording of the SportsNation Poll:

    "Which style would you prefer from your coach in dealing with the public?
    1) Rex Ryan's outspoken candor
    2) Bill Belichick's guarded blandness

    ESPN.com Poll Results by State

    Not ONE state in the nation votes for the media's darling.
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    #24 Jersey

    the whole world is Red.


    Commies :eek:
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    THAT is awesome! Screw that douchebag.
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    LOL, that's classic stuff right there. Not even in New Jersey.
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    Wow! Even jets fans seem to prefer Belichick's style.
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    The only people who like his style are the people who have to write/talk about his press conferences. Surprise, surprise, these are also the people who's opinions are mass distributed. That's where the idea that "people" prefer Rex Ryan's style to Belichick's comes from, while the real numbers reveal the opposite to be true.
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    30% of the country likes feet.
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    Disable Jersey

    Great to see New Hampster in BB's court even more so than the Mass*****
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    The voters asked themselves which would be better for their team, the big mouth or the no mouth. The answer was obvious.
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    While I love that even both NY and NJ went with Belichick, how is this backfiring on ESPN? Did one of you make a bet with them and now they'll have to pay?
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    I think what was meant by that is that based on the way the questions lead, they didn't get the answer they expected.
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    Usually when ESPN sets up a web poll, the question is at least somewhat debatable, or else it is a waste of time.

    Do you really think they would have set up that poll if they knew it would be so one-sided?

    On top of that, it's clear that ESPN and any other media house worth a **** will always prefer a coach that provides content, because that's what drives traffic. Belichick fans may know that he provides plenty of content when asked the right questions, but that's not the content a place like ESPN is looking for.
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    I think you're right. They use the word "candor" to describe Ryan, which has a positive connotation. They use the word "blandness" to describe Belichick, which has a negative connotation.
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    I'm sure ESPN likes Rex's style and doesn't like BB's...I'll guess that's what shmessy was referring to and I agree.
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    I love that even New York was a 60/40 divide :)

    Thought it would have been closer than that :)
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    This is perfect.

    No doubt some Westchester jester dweeb at ESPN Bristol tried to be cute,
    now the little gal is seeing red.
    Suitable for Framing.

    This is most assuredly Not like the old days.

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    Out spoken candor sounds a lot nicer than blandness. Its the way they phrased it.
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    #24 Jersey

    The rest of the world outside of the U.S. is overwhelmingly for Belichick's style as well. The only time that I ever hated his style with a passion is the day that Brady's season-ending injury occurred. I wanted to know, and know quickly, whether he was done for the season or not.
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    I doubt that. But I suspect most Giants fans choose their former SB winning defensive coordinator over their loudmouth obnoxious stadiummate. And there is a lot more Giants fans than Jets fans in NJ and NY.
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    #75 Jersey

    Pujo, the wording of the poll makes ESPN's editorial point quite clear. Glancing at the other posts answering your question, it's obvious everyone got the inference.

    And the ESPN folks posing the poll got hit with a comeuppance - - no matter the geographical location.
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    ESPN gets paid as long as someone clicks and it doesn't matter who they click on. But I bet shmessy is two steps ahead of me, already digging up evidence of Roger Goodell being behind this poll in yet another devious attempt to harm the Patriots and help the Jets.
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    hahahah Rex Ryan probably feels like the kid in charlie brown thats always dirty, or the fat kid in diapers in the movie Bebe's kids!!
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    #75 Jersey

    What? Wow....ummm....you may want to cut back on the caffeine there.
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    I don't think the question wording is slanted one bit, I think it's an excellent description of the contrast in styles.

    Could anyone who disagrees propose alternate wording which they don't think is slanted, which still captures the essence of the people involved? Everything else I can think of either misses the point or actually is slanted.
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    60% Giants

    40% Jets


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    #75 Jersey

    Good question.

    I think the issue is really the "outspoken candor". Rex Ryan is way beyond "outspoken candor" - - he practices false bluster (the OPPOSITE of candor). He is selling something he himself knows is NOT true - - HE KNOWS it's not him against Manning, or him against Belichick - - he is protecting his team (and particularly his quarterback) with his carnival sideshow act. If he WERE candid, he would say "Hey, I'm trying to take pressure of my unnerved young QB by trying to create distratcions for the media (now THAT would be "candor"). If it was something he truly believed, THEN it would be candor.

    More to the point, the first part is worded "dealing with the public", but should be "dealing with the media" - - so yes, it is slanted because ESPN is pissed with how BB deals with the media - - but they couch it as dealing with the public - as if it is a social/manners thing. He doesn't respect the media, so that means he doesn't respect the public?????? In their minds, obviously, that means "yes" and they couched it that way.

    I'm not sure they expected the PUBLIC's answer showing it isn't as offended by his "guarded blandness" as the media who need quotes on deadline.
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    Poor, poor shmessy, doesn't see the obvious conspiracy.
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    Suspicion of Goodell's neutrality?
    Why that would be?
    From the wikiworld:

    Goodell was born in Jamestown, New York, the son of the late United States Senator Charles E. Goodell, a Republican from New York, and the late Jean Rice Goodell of Buffalo, New York.

    The Goodell family moved to Bronxville, New York, in 1971. He graduated from Bronxville High School where, as a three-sport star in football, basketball, and baseball, he captained all three teams as a senior and was named the school's athlete of the year.

    Injuries kept him from playing college football.

    Goodell's career in the NFL began in 1982 as an administrative intern in the league office in New York under then-Commissioner Pete Rozelle – a position secured through an extensive letter-writing campaign to the league office and each of its then 28 teams. In 1983, he joined the New York Jets as an intern, but returned to the league office in 1984 as an assistant in the public relations department.

    Goodell has four brothers; among them are Tim, who has recently transferred his employment to work at the Hess Corp

    Leon Hess was the founder of the Hess Corporation and the former owner of the New York Jets.
    In 1963, the original Titan uniform design was changed by Leon Hess to match the Corporate colors.

    After his (Hess') death, American businessman Woody Johnson bought the Jets from Hess` estate in 2000. Johnson purchased the team for $635 million.
    Based on the Jets' recent financial performance and the team's low-revenue lease at Giants Stadium, the analysts said the team was really worth about $250 million.

    Johnson served on the NFL Commissioner search committee in which a list of 185 candidates to succeed Paul Tagliabue was narrowed down to the final choice of Roger Goodell.


    :rolleyes:
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    #75 Jersey


    Please, this has nothing to do with Goodell.

    But, are you still in denial about the Rex Ryan Footgate thing????
    ___________


    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ish-merged-many-times-page17.html#post2416832

    Pujo 12/29/2010: "They don't have to publish the photos to write a story saying that the photos exist, umm, Niels Bohr? I'll look at it when I get home, but anything terribly salacious that I find in there that hasn't been otherwise reported in a reputable source, I'll take with a grain of salt."
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    Say hi to Fireman Ed for us all! :d
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    So Woody Johnson spent $625 million in 2000 to buy the Jets.

    After 10 years, the Jets is now worth $250 million.

    Not a bad investmnent, if you ask me. :)

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