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Would you sign Lions safety Louis Delmas, and let Chung walk?

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  1. furley

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    I agree. I think his price tag should be low right now. Now, whether he would want to sign with New England or would he re-sign with Detroit or a different team remains to be seen.



    Patriots: Strong safety Louis Delmas – New England was interested in Delmas leading up to the 2009 draft, but he was picked one spot ahead of where the Pats took Pat Chung. Chung also happens to be a free agent. Delmas has versatility to play both safety spots and he’s a big yet disciplined hitter. Coach Bill Belichick likes those qualities. Delmas does have an injury history, though, so he shouldn’t be too expensive.

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    I like Chung more than Delmas & I don't like Chung. So I guess I don't like Delmas even more. For cheap, either can be depth.
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    I have no problem with anyone that Belichick wants to bring in for camp competition. IMHO, Chung is very unlikely to be re-signed. Chung would be a #4 safety for us, even he even made the team.

    The issue is whether we spend serious money on a safety. That depends on Belichick's evaluation of Wilson. We already have McCourty, Wilson and Gregory (plus special teamer Ebner as an emergency safety).

    Drafting a safety high is also a strong possibility.
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    Would you sign Louis Delmas, let Chung walk?

    Chung was leaving either way
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    Does anyone know why New England didn't offer Dashon Goldson a contract when he was a free agent two years ago? Price?

    I think Chung will sign elsewhere. And I think Belichick will kick the tires on Delmas. Maybe, he signs for a one-year contract.
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    I'd let Chung walk without signing Delmas.
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    I believe we did he just chose to stay in San Fran.
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    Yeah, regardless, Chung is gone. I would rather have other guys than Delmas, but he would be a nice addition.
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    Would you sign him now? I believe he's a free agent again. But, if San Francisco can't re-sign him, he certainty won't come here.
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    His price just doubled, and he's a cover safety. Would be kind of duplicitous with McCourty at FS.
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    Both were horrible last season. No interest in either.
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    Would you sign Louis Delmas, let Chung walk?

    We did but he decided to stay in SF.
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    Would you sign Louis Delmas, let Chung walk?

    I like Delmas as a player. If he could stay healthy and isn't a retard like the rest of that Detroit team I'd sign him to a prove it deal.
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    People seem to forget that at the by the en of the 2011 season, Chung was probably our best DB. Now I don't have any explanation of why Chung fell so far that he failed to play even when he was healthy at the end of this past season. I just know that he was a good DB just a year before.

    I know Delmas was the Pats first choice in 2009, and he flashed several times over the past 4 years including IIRC, a pro bowl or 2. Like anything this off season, a lot would depend on his price, and the perception BB has of Gregory, Wilson, and the development of Ebner.

    The bottom line here is that Delmas is a talented but somehow injury plagued safety. Certainly worth a look, but since we don't really have a clue as to BB's off season DB strategy its really hard to speculate what he'll do and who he'll go after and what he's willing to pay for them.
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    Chung come back if at all at a minimum deal to play in short yardage/goal line packages.

    Delmas is going to be too expensive - I like Moore better at less $. Or draft a S - pretty good draft for them.
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    Moore unfortunately will likely command more $$ than Delmas. Too bad, because he would be
    absolutely perfect here.

    Moore - McCourty
    Gregory - Wilson
    Ebner - UFA/UDFA

    Position solved.
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    no to delmas and chung is walking
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    Is it possible that BB wants Wilson to start next year? I think so.
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    Not sure why you say he won't come here?

    Personally I think we should be more worried about CB and pass rush than safety. At this point my preference is to leave McCourty at safety and he can pair with Gregory, Wilson, or a rookie and we will be good if the corners are set and possiblely great if the corners are set and we improve the pass rush.
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    This has been a popular question lately due to the emergence of Goldson as a more dominant player, but you'd need to remember that at the time he was not anything at all special.

    We actually reportedly offered him a little more than SF's ridiculously low (but appropriate at the time) offer, he just didn't see much of a difference between the two offers and chose to stay where he was instead, hoping that he could transform staying there into a nice long-term deal with them, which he has set himself up to do with his much better play.

    It certainly wasn't like we offered him some ridiculous deal for the kind of player he was at the time. His own team actually offered less. Both offers were very low but were on par with his value at the time.
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    Louis Delmas has the potential to be a very good safety in this league. His problem is that he has had an injury bug and has not been dependable yet, so that is the biggest concern and the biggest gamble.

    He reportedly brings a ton of energy, hard-hitting value, and leadership to his practices every single day, and when he's been lucky enough to see the field on Sundays.

    If Belichick deems him as worthy enough value to take a look at, I would trust him and be more than happy. It would almost definitely pay off as long as he sees the field...of course that's a big 'if.'
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    Chung is gone.. he needs to go back and take a course on geometry.
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    Thats the problem.
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    So you want to replace our injury-prone, inconsistent safety with another injury-prone, inconsistent safety?
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    We need 2 cover safeties. Run stopping safeties who can't cover are dinosaurs now.
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    It's still unclear why New England didn't offer him a contract two years ago. Whatever hangups that New England had about him to have pause, I doubt that feeling has changed any.

    Another safety I would've an interest in is Jairus Byrd, but he's an even more unlikely option.



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    They did make him an offer. He went to SF anyway.
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    I just explained this to furley. Maybe he didn't see it, or he simply doesn't believe me? Either way, this is what happened with the Dashon Goldson situation.
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    You can cross Byrd off the list. Belichick isn't going to give up 2 first rounders to get him, along with paying him a highly paid contract to boot.

    Those are the kinds of guys who do not offer the value that he looks for, rightfully so. I'm not sure how many NFL players Belichick would currently give up 2 first rounders for, but my guess is that you could count them on one or two fingers...if that.

    We'll have to look for other avenues instead.
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    At this point the make-up of the secondary is completely unknown

    we do not know who the "#1" corner will be and the #2 corner could be Dennard (but jail? suspension? year 2 regression?)

    Safety could be McCourty but he could potentially be #1, #2 cb depending on what happens in the offseason.

    Personally I think next year with a full training camp McCourtey could be> Goldson at safety, as I have never been a huge fan of his and don't think he's worth the 6 or 7 mil he's asking for. I think I'm the only one in that boat.

    Would rather spend the 6/7 mil on someone like Chris Gamble and also sign Q.Jammer as a #2/#3 CB/S veteran and do the overpay thing for Ed Reed (5 mil+ is crazy!)

    That way, whatever happens with Dennard or McCourtey's training camp, the team could adapt.

    secondary of Dennard, Gamble, McCourtey, Jammer, Reed, Dowling, T Wilson could be one of the better ones we've had and it would give Bill the ability to move players around as he pleases. Although I am not sure if this would be feasible $$ wise...

    Thoughts?
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