Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Brady_to_Moss, Mar 10, 2008.
Who wants him and who dosnt??
nope, pac-man is where I draw the line----too many arrests, i just don't see any gentleman qualities in him
24 year old Pro-Bowl CB/PR for a late round draft pick? Hell yes.
If he gets in trouble, then he's gone - and that's that.
I really, really, really want to get the guy.
Stop beating around the bush. Look, do you want him or not? It's a simple question.
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I wouldn't want him unless we got some kind of crazy deal that gave him a very low one year deal that stipulated that if (or when I should say) he gets on the wrong side of the law again he looses his contract and has to re-pay any $$ paid out already....even then...I still don't think I want him... I do want some solid CB's though...but I'd like em to have 1/10th of a brain..so I say no....
ya i agree
under no circumstance would I want Pac-Man on our team
Most of my yes answer is due to is a WVU boy... other than that...
He is talented, I believe he was a top 10 pick in the draft, he's young, his reputation is shot, and he will come cheap.
There is enough veteran leadership to change his attitude.
Randy Moss proves that if you want to be treated like a man, and act like one too, come here, and compete at a high level with some of the best professionals in the business.
Young guys liek Pac-Man, want all the respect without really earning it, in New England, he's small fish, and I think he will look up to more in NE, than in Tenn. Especially with Rodney Harrison there...
No way should he be on this team. To equate his poor life choices and general f@cked up lifestyle with Moss' background is way off base. Two completely different worlds. Better to equate P-Man with Ray Lewis, or one of the other genuine thugs in the NFL.
For all of his admitted baggage, he does have Devin Hester potential.
He has effed up his career, but not to the point where he's completely unsalvageable (conversely, I think Mike Vick is history in the NFL). I think he's probably immature for his age. Maybe he can be had for a one-way contract that pays him to perform AND behave, thereby incentivising excellence on and off the field. I know BB respects Pacman's return skills. Look what he did to Sauerbrun after he kicked to him in '06. He almost cut him on the spot.
I think it would be a good low risk, high reward situation, and would say yes. If there's any team that he can play for, its the pats. However, I still don't think he gets it. I read a transcript of him on a radio show last week, and he just seems young, immature, and doesnt take responsibility for his actions. He doesn't seem to respect the league, and I wonder if he'd respect the Pats.
Do not see this as a good move for the Pats, Oakland maybe, but not here even if he signs a no risk contract for minimal money.. this makes no sense at all.
Hell no! No need for his wanna be ghetto gangster crap.
Like it or not, that subculture permeates all of professional sports. Do you think the Patriots currently have no one who ascribes to it? If they do have aspirants to that lifestyle, they're probably tempered by the locker room culture that the Pats have created. That is what you need. Then these guys can grow into solid pros, while that lifestyle aspect takes a secondary role.
You can't be too sanctimonious. You've got to be realistic. A lot of the athletes come from backgrounds that would frighten a lot of us here. You cannot ostracize everyone. Bring them along for the ride. Everyone can then prosper.
Stay away, far far away.
Nothing says "he doesn't get it" when they day before your reinstatement hearing with the Commish, you are in a strip club getting into trouble.
Let him be someone else's problem.
Simply being in a Strip club isn't enough to say he's a bad person.... In fact then most of us would be considered bad people and our employeers should have not hired us...
I don't care how many trouble-making players have come here and stayed out of trouble, he will cause trouble no matter where he is.
I generally will take pretty much any player who would help our team, and I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to athletes and their off-the-field behavior. But what Pacman did crosses the line, no way I want him on the Patriots. I could never root for him.
On a very small and non-guaranteed contract, yes. Give him a look. I personally think the man can't change, but if he could, then good. He was still a top-10 pick and has all the talent in the world, and he played well in the NFL before his suspension.
And let's face it, the Patriots' public image couldn't be much worse right now, so this seems like the right time to take chances like this.
That being said, someone else will be willing to gamble more on him, and that's what will happen.
im 50 50, sure the guy has a lot of issues, but maybe somewhere like NE he can get rid of them, then we can see his true talents emerge on the back page of a newspaper rather his issues on the front
I live in Nashville and am familiar with Pacman's antics and reputation. This is not a stable individual. Although he is a gifted athlete, he is nothing but poison to a team, on and off the field. He is no way a team player. PM has nothing except a "me, myself, and I, so GFY" mentality.
The Titans should have cauterized this infection a long time ago.
I agree 100%. If there's a strip club in Boston, expect flying bullets and Pacman's face on the front page of the Globe.
This is not comparible to Moss - Moss is not a natural thug.
I'm not sure I like where that logic goes. Pacman has made really dumb choices, and is a punk, but I think you want to be careful calling anyone a "natural" thug. You know how it sounds.
Not only does it sound bad....but it doesn't make sense as thug life is obviously not anything inherited, its Environmental (a learned trait).
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Saying someone is a "natural thug" is, well, you know what it is. I'm sure that's not what he meant when he said it.
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