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  1. PATSNUTme

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    Pick #10 has gone bye and Patrick Willis is still on the board.

    Then this announcement is made. "We have a trade. The NE Patriots have traded to the SF 49ers Picks #24,28, and 91 for picks #'s 11, 76,& 110.

    "With the 11th selection in the 2007 NFL Draft, the NE patriots take Patrick Willis, ILB Ole Miss!"
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    Probably happy
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    this would make me a bit angry. i think that is too much to give up for Willis. We could have a potential starter in harris at 91 and two other players instead of willis. too much value at those spots to trade for one guy.
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    yeah i would approve Washington 6 + Springs for 28 + samuel
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    not overly excited.
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    NEWS FLASH: David Harris will be gone before #40, maybe before that as his "value' increases when Willis is gone.
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    Meh. Instead of three good players, you get two. And, as some people (e.g., Box) have pointed out, Willis may not necessarily be the best fit for the Pats D.
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    Box, Box, Box- well excuse me- Patrick Willis is the best ILB for the Patriots.:cool: But, if he's gone then it's Harris. We don't have time to groom a convert like Bradley, although I would take him in the second, if we had a second,after we took willis or harris.
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    I'd rather have the best LB available and Griffin in the first round than Willis.

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    PatsNutMe - You know how high I was on Willis and still think he will make an instant impact on any team from day 1. But giving up two first rounders for just one player is too risky. So pretty much Willis is off my board just because I think he will be taken in the early teen's. I would rather wait things out and grab too players that can help on defense immediately. Also, check out ESPN's nation mock draft - where the fans vote for what player each team should take, you would be surprised where Patrick Willis ends up. I know it doesn't mean squat but there is always a chance certain players that you thought would be picked early, end up dropping late into the draft. ex. Vince Wilfork, Matt Leinart, Aaron Rodgers etc. I strongly feel that the Pats will take two DB's in the first round if Willis isn't available. However, if Willis is still around say 17-18, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats make the move and draft the tackling machine that the Pats need.
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    Having Willis would make me happy. That cost to get him would make me angry.
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    My ears are burning, must be my imagination.
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    His value won't increase with Willis gone. His value is already predicated on Willis being gone long before he is picked.
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    :rofl: Well by this time next week we will all know.

    I really don't expect such a trade but I would be happy if it did happen. My mind set is that we are picking players - not "value". And I think if that trade did come about, there would be enough good players at S, OLB, and OT to make those other picks pan out well.
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    Yeah me too. I like Poz over Willis anyway. Willis is more of a Tampa 2 LB and he also looked a bit stiff at the Senior Bowl.
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    I love Willis, I really d, anbd he would likely be the best possible LB we could get, but that price is a bit too steep for me. I would be happy in one sense, but sad. I would certainly wonder for a full year at what might of been.

    I just do not know if the drop off between taking Beason or Harris is enough to justify the price.
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    How old is Springs? Isn't he over 30?Is Carlos Rogers better to coach up?
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    to much to give up what a draft that has a lot of good lbs plus the potential hold out what a pick that high
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    I'd wonder why SP/BB are listen to the pats fan with a man crush on Willis
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    If they do it, and I don't think that they will, it won't be because they are listening to fans with a "man crush" on Willis.

    If you wonder that, then everyone should wonder why you are wondering that. :eek:
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    I would be disappointed, but not angry. I just don't see the value in making that kind of move...

    The last time I was angry during a Patriots draft was when they took Richard Seymour over players I liked better at the time...David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Kenyatta Walker, and Dan Morgan. Things turned out quite well. Clearly, they know what they're doing...
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    I'd be very surprised at, and not very happy with, such a move. I'm not fan of the term "can't miss". When I first started following Football as a teenager, Tony Mandarich was a "can't miss" guy. I learned a valuable lesson at that stage.
    I see players as "less likely to bust than other guys, er, probably. I think". So, I'd rather have two "possibly going to bust" guys than one "less likely...". You get the picture.
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    That will take a lot of pondering on my part. I'm rubbing my chin as I start the process.:rofl:
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    Wouldn't two players busting be worse than just one? I think I see what your talking about, staying put at #24 and #28, taking the best available players. I feel the Pats should keep both picks and draft two guys that can contribute on defense from day 1. The faster a team can inject youth, the better.
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    One of the things I think people fail to consider when it comes to draft time (and even moreso this year - with the additon of Adalius) is how quickly the player can pick up the system (be it offense or defense) and who he'd be replacing.

    We can debate all we want whether Willis is a better fit than Beason...or Posluszny is better than Willis. The point is, none of them will "instantly" move into the starting lineup (barring injury). It's not like our LBs are in such dire need that they'll be put in to "shore it up".

    Will they see significant playing time? Of course. By the middle? end? of the season, whomever we draft could be starting. But all that will be determined by the afore mentioned ability to pick up the system.

    As we've all seen, BBs defensive schemes aren't for the dim-witted. And as a rule, I think we can all agree that BB and SP draft "smart" football players. Where do any of the guys we're talking about fit into that category? I'd much rather have a guy who understands his position and might be 2/10s of a second slower in the 40 than someone who runs a 4.4 and is constantly out of position.

    Like was said earlier, we'll find out in a week.


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    I've never heard it called a chin before. :eek:
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    Good one!:rocker:
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