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  1. FreeTedWilliams

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    #75 Jersey

    http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html

    The link is slow, because of its many hits, So I will post the first half of the article. The article is written by a Democrat and it could not be more true...


    Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?
    By Orson Scott Card

    Editor's note: Orson Scott Card is a Democrat and a newspaper columnist, and in this opinion piece he takes on both while lamenting the current state of journalism.

    An open letter to the local daily paper — almost every local daily paper in America:

    I remember reading All the President's Men and thinking: That's journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.

    This housing crisis didn't come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.

    It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.

    What is a risky loan? It's a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.

    The goal of this rule change was to help the poor — which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can't repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can't make the payments, they lose the house — along with their credit rating.

    They end up worse off than before.

    This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.

    Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It's as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)

    Isn't there a story here? Doesn't journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren't you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefiting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?

    I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. "Housing-gate," no doubt. Or "Fannie-gate."

    Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.

    Please read the whole article, it basically is saying what I've been saying, that journalism is dead.
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    news not telling a con man exactly what he wants to hear: "journalism is dead"

    well, at least we have one Conservative poster admitting (albeit through a slanted opinion piece) that Watergate was real and the truth got out... another here, however, still insists Nixon did nothing wrong...

    anyhow, Corporate journalism is certainly dead... but independent journalism is alive and well...


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    “I really do think that if for one week in the United States we saw the true face of war, we saw people's limbs sheared off, we saw kids blown apart, for one week, war would be eradicated. Instead, what we see in the U.S. media is the video war game."

    Goodman believes that media should be, in the title of the 2004 book she wrote with her brother David, The Exception to the Rulers. “The role of reporters,” she says, “is to go to where the silence is and say something.” For going to places like East Timor, Nigeria, Peru, and Haiti to report on stories ignored by the mainstream media, often as considerable risk, she has won many honors including the Robert F. Kennedy Journalism, George Polk, and Overseas Press Club awards.

    “She begins broadcasting at 7 a.m., and works until near midnight,” a reporter wrote in the Washington Post. Her fellow journalist Danny Schechter has said, about her, “She works hard and when she's not working, she works harder. She is earnest to a fault, with little patience for folks who may have a more nuanced stance on certain issues than she does. But she is informed, committed, passionate, thorough and very uncompromising.” Goodman is, Schechter says, “in a class of her own.”​
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    Thank you. I've been saying this for the past month. Why isn't the MSM treating this issue fairly, openly, or honestly???

    It sickens and disgusts any non-partisan American -- and, of course, Republicans, too, naturally -- that this story has been SPIKED by the MSM. All because they have already decided who they want as the next president -- and it ain't John McCain -- and who they want to stay in the Congress -- and it ain't Republicans.

    Also stated before that some 92% of all news people in the MSM identify themselves as either Democrat or "independent", but not as Republican. The deck is stacked right out of the chute. And that totally screws the hopes of fair media play.


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    While you are all having fogasms.. you might want to vette your source.. just because you call yourself a liberal or democrat does not mean you are..:scream::scream:

    Orson Scott Card - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Another fogical response, when confronted with the truth, do not act intelligent..
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    completely dominated, once again... you can tell an exchange with Fraud is officially over when he waves the white flag of "zzzzzz"
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    #75 Jersey

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    The irony here is not lost on anyone... It's a tactic you guys have perfected since the origins of this forum...
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    There's no doubt that more mortgages were issued than what should have been. There is, however, a doubt as to how bad things might have gotten if the words 'credit default swap' never had any meaning in financial circles. Don't forget that these high risk mortgages also carried higher interest rates and private mortgage insurance. I'm of the opinion that the housing crisis got much worse than it ever should have. That the extra interest and the mortgage insurance may very well have kept a lid on things if there hadn't been a shadow banking system in place to really drive things out of balance.
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    Awesome. :rocker:
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    I love it. If you're not 100% lock step you can't be a Democrat. :rofl: Close that mind! WE tell you what to think! :rofl:
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    Usually when you urge people to vote for Republicans, you aren't a Democrat. Pretty sure it works the same way on the other side:rolleyes:
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    Study: McCain coverage mostly negative - Yahoo! News

    I don't want to go over the copy & paste rules ... the report goes on to say that the results are not necesarily biased. When you're winning the race you tend to get better coverage and vice-versa. So basically yes there is bias but it's your tough luck because not enough people like your mug.
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    Which is why you can dismiss most if not all of what is in the MSM. MSNBC and the NY Times might as well be Pravda. It's not journalism it's just propaganda for their guy.
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    Whatever you need to tell yourself... You're sorta like a T.O., blaming everyone else but your own for your team's failure...

    Meanwhile, for every example you can reach for to "prove" the media is liberally biased, I can present another that "proves" its corporate, pro-imperialism agenda... We can start with Judith Miller if you like,... Or the overall coverage of Operation Iraqi Liberation... or the embeddance program... Or the Pentagon-paid military analysts on the cable news panel, and zero paid peace activists to counter them, or on and on and on and on...
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    maybe that's because McCain is a lousy candidate. Then ofcourse there's this:

    Most coverage of candidates is negative, because we're obsessed with gaffes and soap opera, the difference would be the peron leading in the polls is going to get a lot more positive poll stories.
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    If you compare CNN International with BBC World, the stark contrast makes you think there are two entirely different campaigns happening: one is real, equal time allotted to each candidate, and balanced; the other is surreal, 90% Obama -- ALL gushing orgasms of adulation and praise -- the guy's shiit don't stink, even -- and 10% McCain/Palin looking like they can't even get dressed by themselves.

    CNN:pravda = accurate analogy

    Willie Brown is already the new Truth Minister of America, it would seem.


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