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  1. Sean Pa Patriot

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    I doubt it would happen since the Pats and Jets have as much love for each other as ... well the Pats and Jets.. I dont know if that would be a good 1 and 1 swap for the present, but the future would be pretty good at corner..
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    I'd bet Mangini wouldn't be interested. Revis is pretty inexpensive compared to what Samuel wants. I'd expect the Pats to demand more than Revis in trade too.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Samuel is a legitimate starter. Revis isn't yet. He might be in the future but that wouldn't help us this year. And we'd have to get more than Samuel for Revis straight up anyway.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    why help the jets with their problems?
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    I offered up that possibility to Jet fans over at JI earlier this week. I proposed the Pats give the Jets Samuel for Revis and a 2nd round pick next year. Its a deal that works for both teams. The Jets have the cap room. Samuel is young enough to give the Jets a top 5 CB for the next 5 years.

    For the Jets: They weaken a division opponent for a year or so. They solidify their secondary for the next half decade. A DB of Samuel, Rhodes, Coleman, and Dyson, would be one of the better foursomes in the league. They need that strong defensive backfield while they build their DL and LBs. With Samuel that happens IMMEDIATELY.

    For the Pats: They get rid of a distraction. They have the overall defensive strength to be able to wait a year or two while Revis develops into a #1 CB. He has the size that is lacking in our current CB group. He is good enough to contribute immediately even if he isn't a starter. he also can play the return game. It give us 2 young studs to go with Hobbs, plus it will give us SIX first day picks in the next draft. I'd even do it for a third round if my feet were being held to the fire. Revis, Merriweather, Hobbs, Gay, is a nice nucleous of the next generation of DBs to continue this success pattern.

    Clearly the best DB THIS YEAR would have to have Samuel in it. but I believe that the offense and the current CB depth we already have, would allow us to continue to be one of the favorites to get to the superbowl, and in the long run Revis would be a better value for the Pats...at least for the next 5 years.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Ridiculous. Why trade for a completely unproven player?
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Because it would have been like trading Samuel for this year's 14th overall pick before the draft. That makes it less than ridiculous. Personally, if they throw a 3rd rounder next year I'd be all over this deal.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    This is a juvenile thread based on something that has absolutely, positively NO CHANCE IN HELL of ever happening.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    I hear we are going to trade Rodney Harrison for Champ Bailey too :rolleyes:

    Makes as much sense as this farout thread

    Don't we have anything else to talk about besides stupid imaginary trades in fantasyland?

    When is that freakin first week already before stupid posts become contageous

    The summer sucks :bricks:
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    For a guy that has had great posts here at patsfans, Patfanken This was by far the worst fantasyland stuff I have ever seen you write,Hope you can make us forget this one with another good post or better idea in the next one.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Ken, I would do the deal, and the post is not BS. I dont understand the reluctance of the other posters to chime in. A post revolving around the value of a hold out vs a rival's holdout is legitimate

    Value wise that is about where I would value Samuel- a mid 1st.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Why is this ridiculous? Every time a team trades a player for a #1 draft pick (or any draft pick for that matter), they are trading for an unproven player. They don't even know which player until the draft.

    The other reason would be because we have Samuel for only one year, but would have Revis for five or six years.

    If I were the Jets I would never make this trade.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    :confused: What was wrong with it? Logical, well thought out and well presented, as usual from PatFanKen. If I were Ryan Leaf, I wouldn't be finding fault with Tom Brady.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    This thread sort of raises the question about trading the rights to Samuel.

    It's been reported that the Pats are holding out for two #1's in a trade, which is like saying NO TRADE.

    They got a #1 for Branch, and no one is sorry. Is it worth trading Samuel for a #1? It would be for 2008, obviously, and therefore less value than the Revis pick, but I would not object to trading Samuel for a #1.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    I think this has to do with timing...good for the Jets..getting a player that is a thorn away..and getting a player (much more proven from NE). Timing is bad for NE...as the FO needs to stay strong on this. In other circumstances..it might be OK but not now. Samuel needs his money and will report or risk becoming irrelevent and having a bad year. Trading him now is giving in and that is NOT the way this FO needs to be now. GREAT for teh Jets..no deal.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    What make anyone think this is even a remote possiblility?

    How about trading Samuel and one of our first rounder next year for Champ Bailey? It has about the same likelihood of happening.
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    How about Revis and a 2nd for samuel?????
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Thats why Pioli does what he does and I am a molecular biologist......cause of ideas like this....dont worry.......useless banter will go away in a month....or at least subside a little
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    Yeah, but unfortunately, you'll still be posting.

    R
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    Re: Would anybody be interested in a Revis for Samual deal???

    what do you expect me to do...your mom's too busy for me right now;)

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