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  1. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    During one of the Republican presidential debates Mitt Romney was asked if he'd "shutter" FEMA and end federal disaster relief....his answer, ""Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

    "Including disaster relief, though?" debate moderator John King asked Romney.

    "We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney replied. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."


    He then went on to add that privatizing disaster relief would be an even better solution.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt-romney-fema_n_2036198.html

    Last night, faced with the current impending disaster, (which will affect several critical swing states) his campaign seemingly reaffirmed his opinion by issuing the following statement:

    "Gov. Romney wants to ensure states, who are the first responders and are in the best position to aid impacted individuals and communities, have the resources and assistance they need to cope with natural disasters."

    Add this to his heartless response to a victim of September's flooding in Louisiana when she told him she'd lost everything in the storm and asked him what could be done and he told her to "Go home and call 211," and you may have the makings of an "October Downfall."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/01/mitt-romney-211_n_1848432.html
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    That was under Bush, so thanks for reminding us why Republican policies are so disastrous. They overspend, waste money, and don't even protect people.

    At any rate, sometimes it's only the government that can marshal the resources necessary to deal with major natural disasters, and frankly now would be a great time for the right to argue against FEMA (great for Obama that is).
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    The old battle cry " Its was Bush's fault" is getting tired. But, I understand its all you libs have left at this juncture with Obamas defeat inevitable.

    The point is that government is not the answer to everything and that Romney is right to end wasteful spending and corruption by FEMA when he gets elected next Tuesday. :D
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    The commentary you posted was from the Bush era...
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    Everyone supports ending wasteful spending and corruption, but the reality is that the reason we know about wasteful spending and corruption at the federal level is because it is highly transparent. There is vastly more corruptions and wasteful spending at the state level and the private corporate level; it gets exposed every now and then (such as in the early years of the current recession), but by and large it's buried. Overall, the federal government has no choice but to be quite honest, because it can't get away with much. If we give more power to the individual states and private corporations, we make it easier for corruption and wastefulness to fester.
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    If anything, this storm will hurt Obama.

    #1: it hits populations that give him strong support; extended power outages may prevent them from voting.

    #2: frustration at relief/recovery efforts will be directed at whomever's in charge -- it's likely that Obama will get some negatives and not deserve it.
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    Actually, politically, I see it is as quite the opposite:

    - Obama's main risk is that FEMA bungles things badly, but I don't think that will happen.
    - Romney's main risk is the fact that white guys (his base) are generally suburban or rural, so will have more trouble getting to the polls; in addition, home owners more than urban dwellers will have a lot more to deal with in the aftermath of the storm in terms of repairs, so may be less motivated to vote.
    - Romney's strategy has been to flood the airwaves with ads in these last two weeks, but now that will seem insensitive to some degree and will be upstaged by the storm to an even larger degree.
    - Obama will get a lot of positive free coverage, just by virtue of being president.
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    20B to GM *cough cough*

    And god knows how much to failed green companies.
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    Our early investments in rural electrification, computers, and NASA were also unprofitable. The government invests in areas that can't attract venture capital--hopefully some of these investments will result in enough promise that venture capitalists will move in.
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    The impacted electorate leans 20 points towards Obama (per what I read at 538)... Romney wasn't going to win there anyway unless PA gets more competitive.
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    #87 Jersey

    sounds like a great way to segway right into Obamacare the mother of all waste fraud and abuse.And so far has helped ruin the health of our economy *cough cough, puke, projectile diahrhea*
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    How much have we given to GE?
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    When you vote please remember what a Beautiful Smile Obama has.

    (Bush created Katrina, now he's at it again)

    "mommy"
    "yes dear"
    "there's a tree in my bedroom"
    "damn that Bush"
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    Romney's position on FEMA will have nothing to do with the outcome of the election, the cake is already baked.

    Grasping at straws over at the Huff PO IMO.
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    In response to Romney shutting down another wasteful federal government agency. If youre somehow implying that FEMA is not wasteful under Obama thats truly comedy gold!

    Also, Jimmy "Obama" Carter created FEMA too! Everything comes full circle.
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    I think Virginia is perhaps the most significant state in this storm. If rural and suburban people can't or don't vote, that will work to Obama's advantage. Of course, the storm could be a big enough disaster as to cause real harm in urban areas, in which case the advantage would be for Romney. But, let's hope the storm doesn't become a factor in the election and that no one is hurt.
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    Unlike Benghazi?

    Yes, its so much better that we know all about the waste of tax payers dollars. The mismanagement and corruption dont seem so bad after all.

    Not every state is corrupt. Louisiana and Illinois are notoriously crooked.

    Romney is right, why should the fed government be on the hook for state corruption.
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    #87 Jersey

    It has been proven that entitlements have actually risen during republican administrations. That being said is the real Romney going to continue that trend ... we'll see. The perception that money handouts are larger during democrat administrations has been proven wrong.

    The above aside IMO ... I am a proponent of shifting more to the states whenever and wherever possible. They are best prepared to handle their citizens. That would have to happen very slowly and would be part of a income tax shift ... larger on the state side and smaller on the federal side.

    I am not sure it is totally fair to just look at the expenditures of the last 4 years.
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    "Haunted Campaigns".....very nice touch 2 days before Halloween!!
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    I think it depends on the severity of the storm. FEMA doesn't do evacuations and they don't do law enforcement, which were the two problems with Katrina. If the lights are still out in millions of homes after a week, they won't want hopeful speeches but actual results...and guess what, that one week is election day....
    If the storm is not as bad as predicted and damage not as bad and recovery efforts go well ( which is what we all hope for- so nobody accuses me of wanting death/destruction) it bodes better for the President's campaign...
    I'll let you know in about 36 hours......if I still have power......
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    Even if you lose power, we want updates Philly!

    Just use your super G42X Sky-Lancer Universal Moderator.....just watch out for the big KA-Boom!
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    We have an inverter and a Black and Decker power center to charge cell phone and iphones so I actually could post in a blackout. So far just heavy wind and some rain but the worst is hours away....Still got out to Dunkin this morning for my coffee and I plan on doing it tomorrow...if they are open...
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    Why would anything in those statements hurt Romney? Because of the wonderful job the federal government did during Katrina and the Gulf Oil Spill situations over the past years?
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    He was just telling the crowd in front of him at the time what they wanted to hear, just like now when he changed his mind because people want to hear that he is helping.


    Leadership: Romney Uses Campaign Bus to Deliver Hurricane Relief

    yeah...

    Mitt is sending a bus...

    Obama will probably send in the National Guard, but HAVE NO FEAR east coast, Mitts bus will surely deliver tens of people relief...once....

    seriously...this guy wants to be president?
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    If the Gulf Oil Spill is any indication, Mitt's bus will provide 10 times the amount of relief that the federal government will.
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    Hyperbole level is amazing on this one ^^^
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    In the future, would you please respond to my statements instead of attacking me personally? You know, new rules and all. TIA.
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    now BACK to the lecture at hand......


    According to Mitt, federal disaster relief is simply IMMORAL. Sugar coat it, deflect the statement all you want, but the fact remains that Mitt is a cold-hearted, grade a poop-shooter. He is willing to attempt to score political points on future deficits, which EVERY president except Clinton over the last bunch has contributed to, before the well being, andf rebuilding efforts of everyday americans affected by a natural disaster.



    Today...Mitt is sending those 50 million people a bus...


    F-yourself Mr Romney!

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