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  1. pdangle

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    Woodhead doesn't seem to have much of a place (or much impact yesterday at least) in this new look run-balanced offense.

    It could of been just a one-game, game-planning thing, but I just don't see Danny getting nearly as much run this season.

    I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but it'll be interesting for sure. There hasn't been much discussed on this, and most people seemed to have missed a possible trickle down reduced role effect a dynamic runner like Ridley (as opposed to downhill 2-down runner like Lawfirm) would have on Wodhead this season.

    Could it be that in his current role, the Pats are too predictable. Or maybe the league D has caught up with his running style a bit, or maybe a bit of both.

    Anyway it'll be worth following his use and development this year.
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    It's one game. To think Woodhead or Welker is on his way out doesn't take into account the Pats' penchant (esp. with McDaniels back calling plays) for featuring different people on different game days to keep opponents guessing (and guessing wrong, hopefully).

    Besides, Woodhead remains important while Vereen remains delicate.
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    It did look like for most of his time out there,Woodhead didn't seem to find that gap he used to find and slither through the big guys for 5-6 yards or so.

    He seems a bit more slower or slower to react for whatever reason.

    I watched him with several 1 yard and done runs but also had a nice little 5 yard burst,but its not the flash out of the backfield Woodhead I am used to seeing.
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    I'm more inclined to think it may be a Welker phase out. Don't think
    Edleman is good enough to replace him. Maybe Salas with a little
    more time.
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    Why run Woodhead when every other time Ridley got the ball he was getting 15+ yard chunks? They had nothing close to an answer for Ridley, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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    Did Salas play yesterday ?
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    I find it amazing what some fans seem to think about after a good win.

    BTW, Brady mentioned Woody's name this morning when he talked about players who were assets to the offense.
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    Danny's a nice feel-good story, but he ain't breaking any tackles. You could knock him over with a feather.

    IMO it's only a matter of time before he is replaced/upgraded.
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    Exactly what I was going to say. It was Riddley's day and he ran the ball well. Why take the ball out of his hands? Woodhead will have his games too, trust me.
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    We are going to be running MORE. Our #2 running back (Woodhead) is MORE important, not less.
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    I'm not sure if it was the gameplan or simply the result of what the Titans were showing yesterday, but the Pats didn't use the middle of the field as often as they usually do. This could explain the low numbers for both Woodhead and WW since that's where they usually do a lot of their damage.
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    Not yesterday but he was on the active roster. Give him a little time.
    He was productive with the Rams as a rookie (27 catches in 6 games)
    before he got injured.
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    Maybe the Patriots will trade Ridley, Woody, and the entire fired scouting staff to the Cowboys for Demarco Murray.
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    He's not being phased out. We just have an OC now who doesn't go to the same thing every time he gets into a rut.
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    Who is this Brady fellow who thinks he knows as much as a Patsfan poster who saw one game?
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    Particularly if he hasn't even had a chance to BE in a rut!!
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    I get the feeling Woodhead will still be used as the primary back when we're in the two minute drill or trailing late. Teams know we're going to pass anyway, so the threat of the run is less important, and he can still pull off a draw fairly well. I liked what I saw on Ridley's catch yesterday, but Woodhead is still the better pass receiver at this point.
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    Well hopefully as Ridley is getting established the load is divided a little more between the different backs.


    Ridley had 26 carries yesterday that sort of pace would have him at >400 carries when the playoffs roll along, this is a lot of carries in a season. Having this guy ready for the playoffs as opposed to being fried would be a good thing.
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    This team incorporates a lot of plays for our receivers; why not apply that to our talent corp of running backs?

    Besides, it's not like a great pitcher should only throw a 98 plus heater or a great boxer should end his fights with an uppercut.

    We're have a great variety of talent and with boy wonder back, I'm sure we will have another magical season.
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    I have no idea what has fans scrabbling around after a dominant road win looking for negative storylines.

    There are only so many balls to go around on offense, personally I was happy at the way we ran out of a more balanced formation without all these draw plays that give zero momentum to the runner or the offensive line.

    Ridely ran like a demon why are you looking for Woodhead to get the ball?

    Lloyd/Gronk/Ahern did a great job catching the ball - why are we obsessing over Welker?

    Most normal, rational, fans would be happy we have successfully integrated new parts into one of the NFL best offenses instead of focusing on last years top performers.
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    Woodhead is the 3rd down/change of pace back. One game doesn't change that, any more than this game means Brady's done having 300 yard passing games.
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    woodhead is not very useful running the ball with the QB under center. he will be phased out in that regard as the pats get more comfortable with bolden.

    as a 3rd down back, he has a season to generate some value for himself on the open market as I believe demps will beat him out for that spot next year.....demps almost did it this year even though he was not ready to play NFL football.

    I like woodhead, but his limitations ware catching up to him here
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    What does Bolden have over Woodhead? They both barely moved the chains, but Woodhead is also a good option when it comes down to passing plays.
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    You honestly believe that Demps was close to beating out Woodhead? Based on what, getting like 5 snaps in the 4th quarter of week 3? Like 10 snaps in week 4 before getting injured in a game that starters didn't play?
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    What limitations does Woodhead have that Demps doesn't?
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    This is realy not to hard to see that this is his last year on the Pats. With the return of Vereen as the no.2 back and the implementation of Demps as a change of pace back next year. Any improvement of Bolden, and the RB roster is set for next year. Woody was an excelent component to the RB stable the last two years and was much apreciated, but as with every possition on the Pats squad, they have upgraded and he has been pushed out of the line up by better tallent.

    In fact if Vereen can come back healthy, and prove to be so before the trade deadline in week eight, I would not be supprised if BB takes what ever he could get in trade for Woodhead. After all isn't he in the last year of his contract also? But any way you look at it this will be his last year as a Pat.
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    Since Vereen can hardly get onto the football field, Woodhead will be the number two running back for the New England Patriots offense this season.
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    When has Vereen ever been the RB2 in a regular season NFL game?
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    I would not call it necessarily a negative storyline but the "shiny new toy theory". The "kids" want to play with their "new toys" since they have become bored with the "old ones":

    Vereen vs Woodhead

    Salas vs Welker/Edelman
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