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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19207050/?GT1=10056

    Woman dies in ER lobby as 911 refuses to help


    Updated: 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
    LOS ANGELES - A woman who lay bleeding on the emergency room floor of a troubled inner-city hospital died after 911 dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility, newly released tapes of the emergency calls reveal.

    Edith Isabel Rodriguez, 43, died of a perforated bowel on May 9 at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.

    Relatives said Rodriguez was bleeding from the mouth and writhing in pain for 45 minutes while she was at a hospital waiting area. Experts have said she could have survived had she been treated early enough.

    County and state authorities are now investigating Rodriguez’s death. Relatives reported she died as police were wheeling her out of the hospital after the officers they had asked to help Rodriguez arrested her instead on a parole violation. Sheriff’s Department spokesman Duane Allen said Wednesday that the investigation is ongoing.
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    So how is this 911's fault? Yeah, they could have been more helpful, but do they have the authority to determine what hospital to send someone? It sounds like the problem was the hospital.
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    The healthcare system is messed up.
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    #24 Jersey

    It's kind of an incomplete story, it doesn't say whether the ER was full, etc, and some of the "boyfriend"'s words can't be taken literally since he evidently doesn't speak English and called his girlfriend his wife.
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    I agree completely. The woman was already in an ER, how is 911 to blame?

    Excerpt:

    “I’m in the emergency room. My wife is dying and the nurses don’t want to help her out,” Rodriguez’s boyfriend, Jose Prado, is heard saying in Spanish through an interpreter on the tapes.

    “What’s wrong with her?” a female dispatcher asked.

    “She’s vomiting blood,” Prado said.

    “OK, and why aren’t they helping her?” the dispatcher asked.

    “They’re watching her there and they’re not doing anything. They’re just watching her,” Prado said.

    The dispatcher told Prado to contact a doctor and then said paramedics wouldn’t pick her up because she was already in a hospital. She later told him to contact county police officers at a security desk.

    A second 911 call was placed eight minutes later by a bystander who requested that an ambulance be sent to take Rodriguez to another hospital for care.

    “She’s definitely sick and there’s a guy that’s ignoring her,” the woman told a male dispatcher.
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    Agreed, I think the headline is out of whack to what the real story of this is. That is the hospitals' piss-poor care of the woman.
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    Federal inspectors last week said emergency room patients were in “immediate jeopardy” of harm or death, and King-Harbor was given 23 days to shape up or risk losing federal funding.

    I'm curious as to how much, or what kind of federal funding they receive. I feel bad that someone lost their life here, and wonder if it had to be that way. The care obviously was lackluster considering the woman was bleeding from the mouth, and was ignored, but it's no secret that illegals flood ER's in this country for obvious reasons, which seriously dilutes the quality of care for legal citizens. My question is, whether or not that was a factor here, and if so, would that even be reported?
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    #24 Jersey

    As I said, I'm suspicious of the whole thing. Hint . . . learn English.
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    What's wierd is the story printed the man's words in english, although it says he spoke them in spanish, but had some interpretor. I'd like to hear the audio.
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    #24 Jersey

    That's why I'm suspicious of the "and the nurses don’t want to help her out" part. I don't know if the nurses couldn't communicate with him or if "and the nurses don’t want to help her out" was not translated correctly but I have a feeling this isn't exactly how it happened.

    Hint again . . . learn English.
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    This is a direct result of illegal immigration. They used ERs as doctors offices (except it is free for them) and hence, the hospitals are overcrowded, have no money, and must prioritize. Who knows what other lives were being saved in that ER at that time.

    You might not think that this is your problem, but it could quickly become yours, if you or someone you love is hurt and have to go to an ER that is overcrowded with illegals.

    BTW the Spanish word for "wife" is "esposa", their are many different words for girlfriend (Novia is one), yet they have not come up with the Spanish equivalent of "Baby Daddy". A funny side note on the Spanish language, the word for "handcuffs" is "las esposas" coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!!
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    #24 Jersey

    Oh bull, it's all the nasty white people's fault for not providing enough money for health care :rolleyes:

    This ties into what I've been saying, I'm OK with emergency care for anyone, legal or not, but short of actual emergencies, get the hell out of the hospital unless you can pay for it. We have no birthright to free health care for every little thing. I have a bad lower back - I don't want to pay for a chiropracter or other such care so I deal with it.
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    Florida is currently learning what California learned last decade... health care clinics are closing left and right, along with the occassional hospital. If you're in Florida and looking for pre-natal care, good luck with that. Maybe the doctor will see you in 6 months or so...

    Illegal immigration is destroying this country. The massive drawbacks ridiculously heavily outweigh the slight benefits. Period, end of story.
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    The Muslim Terrorists have planted a serum in the water supply that Paramedics & other 911 people drink it causes them to go nuts, yesterday they had a video (Fox News) of a Paramedic ambulance driver punching the sh!t out of his patient, after he beat the patient up he killed himself.

    This is America caused by Bush Hatred & Liberalism--------> :bricks:
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    Somebody else said but I'm gonna say it again, anyway.
    This story is incomplete. It seems someone or someones is/are hiding something.
    There are no comments from that hospital's administrators?
    I would think they would want to defend themselves.
    And what's with the headline? 911 wouldn't help!?
    So much corruption.
    BF, RW and Quigon I also wonder if this person was a legal resident.
    Maybe that's why there is so many holes in this story.
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    Esposa. Sounds like it may have been derived from spouse. No?
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    Small thing to pick on, but esposa is derived from spouse? How do you know spouse wasn't derived from esposa?
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    Fox News Will Report Than You Can Decide

    Fox will get to the bottom of it.

    If the Lefty Media isn't saying much something is going on.

    If White English Speaking Christians had anything to do with it CBS and CNN would be Hysterical over it.
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    I cant stand the ER especially if its something for my kids. They dont seem to have any pediatricians on staff in the ER where I live.


    There definately seems to be more to this story and I'll withhold judgement until I see more.
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    Pujo, you love to pick on me, don't you. It's ok.
    Latin. Common language to all European languages.
    I shouldn't have implied that it came from english so you're right about that.
    But it did come from the same source that english derived it's words. Latin.
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    That makes absolute sense to me. I was more picking on the impression people have that English (language and culture) is the root of civilization.

    Interestingly enough, English is not a Romance language and didn't come from Latin. English came from West Germanic, though more and more Latin words were added to it through the centuries.
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    I believe it is the Hill Burton Act that states something to the effect and I am paraphrasing, that any hospital that receives federal funds cannot turn away people from their emergency room.
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    That's interesting stuff.
    I only know there are many words from language to language that are similar sounding and we have the Romans to thank for that.
    You state that English came from the West Germanic...Is that where the Saxons and/or Anglos originated?
    British history gets a little fuzzy to me as the time line isn't a mere 200 years as it is for America. More like 2000 years. I always thought (maybe mistakenly) that the Brits were almost a continuation of Rome.
    By the way, I think that the English do have a case for taking credit for starting WESTERN civilization.
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    Yes, one of the older West Germanic dialects is actually called Old Saxon.

    As far as Western civilization, you're right that English culture has dominated it for the last 150 years or so, but if you want to get to the root of it you have to give equal credit to the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese - all of them were major explorers and contributors to Western culture.
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    I can buy that. But the English more than any one because one of their colonies grew into a superpower. The French sure had a lot of influence, too.
    Napolian cleared the monarchies in Europe except for England and Russia and he sold us the Louisiana territories. Nice guy.
    I realize Russia is not considered European.(or is it?)I threw it in anyways.
    Spain took virtually the entire South American continent and introduced Chistianity to those territories. Your welcome.
    Now Portugual, I realize they had influence in the Carribean as well as some of South America but I would not give them equal credit to England for shaping Western civization.
    All I know about the Dutch is they swindled the natives for Manhatten.
    From that knowledge I would say they are not equal to England either. You might know of some more contributions from the Dutch. I don't.
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    I haven't commented on this story because I haven't followed it but I do have to say one thing is strange... I don't know how 911 operators are trained but if I am a 911 operator and someone calls with an emergency and I say "OK where are you located where I can send the ambulance?" and they reply "I am at St John's Hospital" then I would just be dumbstruck and not know how to respond from there...
    That's a good question... I for one would never attribute any mal-intent to illegal aliens regarding our (America's) health care system....
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    Sorry to gang up on you, but Scandanavia is in Europe as well as the other Germanic countries, the Slav lands, Greece, and smaller groups like the Gaels and the Basque. Italy, France and Spain generally the homes of Romance languages. The commonality is that almost all languages, except maybe Icelandic, have had Latin infused into their base tongues.
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    So you're saying that Latin was not the base language for the aforementioned
    countries but was...what...infused/mixed into the native tongues. I don't know how that happens. I suppose in the same way Spanglish is developing now.
    Would you have a link for the source of this information. That would be appreciated.

    In any case, it does not take from my original point that the commonality of european words is because of Latin.

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