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there was no blocked punt .....
My bad, could'v sworn the D scored 2 TDs forget how. My memory is going:bricks:
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I changed the title of the original thread based on his complaint, so that's why I gave it a like.
Listen folks, I should be clear about the semantics of the word 'closing'. By that I mean, in our case, win when we are ahead by fewer than 7, our offense gets the ball, and there are 2:30-4 minutes to go.
Now, when in this situation, I literally put my head in my hands in agony because I know what is about to happen. Our last five losses have been the same thing:
Crappy offensive drive (usually 3 and out), deep bomb from the opponent embarrassing our secondary, other team scores; we lose.
If we can avoid any of those things, then we will have learned to close a game. Some have pointed out that we squeaked by in the AFCCG. Yes, that is a counter to what I'm saying, but you know it came perilously close to fitting this exact pattern.
The analogy with last night's game with Peyton admittedly isn't perfect as that was one weird game.
I don't expect to win every game. That is silly. What I do want is for us to win games in which we are ahead, and our offense gets the ball with under 4 minutes to go. That is incredibly reasonable of me, and for some reason our team can't pull it together.
I'm not saying we suck, or won't make the playoffs, or that we should win every game. I'm saying let's close winning games off, as I defined it above.
Thanks to those who were charitable in interpreting what I wrote, e.g., pointing out that I obviously didn't mean to say I want to play from behind every week.
Oh, and our clock management lately on offense, since JoshD came back, has been atrocious.
Do you watch any other football games than the Patriots?
Sadly, for you, there was everything else
i think the nfc is going to completely shred whoever reps the afc in the sb
You realize dont you that Manning only netted 14 points for his team . .. had a pick six and three TDs drives all game long . ..
One TD drive was from the denver 20ish, so kudos there, but the other two drives were from midfield after two defensive ints . . .
So Manning contribution to the team is one long TD drive and two from midfield and a pick six . . . so tell me mosi, how impressive, in this day in age of the passing game, is a net score of 14 points and one long and 2 short TD drives? Best of all time impressive? or just your run of the mill average QBing in today NFL . . .
it was a great game and one for the ages, clearly . . . but when a player contributes a net total of 14 points (the same Brady contributed in SB 42) I am not so sure I would say that he was in a zone (was Brady in a zone in SB 42? (and his scoring drives were longer btw). . . he did what he had to do to win, but it is not like he scored 28 points with sustained drives of 70+ yards . . .
there is a just a little bit too much credit going to Manning and more is needed for his team . . .
surely down the road there will be games where one can point to Manning as a major contributer to the game . . . but not so much last night, well at least in reference to the rest of his team . . .
If the D had not stepped up, we would be looking at a 2-4 Broncos, a pick six by Manning and them behind the Chargers by 2.5 games . . .
While this thread title is a little misleading, let's not even fool ourselves.
Manning is and will pretty much be the best at being the comeback king, its okay to admit it.
This is probably the only area I would give Manning the advantage over Brady in. We all know, being Patriots fans, that this guy is amazing and is never out of the game. I have no issue admitting that. When the Chargers were up 24-0, I sat there with a smirk because I knew it wasn't over. Rivers did help them out so-to-say but this is Manning's 47th comeback win, the most from ANY player ever.
He's done it time and time, it wasn't a fluke.
Playoff Record as Starting QB: 1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)
Playoff Comebacks: 2006 (1)
Playoff Game-Winning Drives: 2006 (1)
Playoff Record as Starting QB: 2001 (3-0), 2003 (3-0), 2004 (3-0), 2005 (1-1), 2006 (2-1), 2007 (2-1), 2009 (0-1), 2010 (0-1), 2011 (2-1)
Playoff Comebacks: 2001 (1),2003 (1),2006 (1)
Playoff Game-Winning Drives: 2001 (2),2003 (2),2004 (1),2006 (1)
I changed the title of the original thread based on his complaint, so that's why I gave it a like.
Listen folks, I should be clear about the semantics of the word 'closing'. By that I mean, in our case, win when we are ahead by fewer than 7, our offense gets the ball, and there are 2:30-4 minutes to go.
Now, when in this situation, I literally put my head in my hands in agony because I know what is about to happen. Our last five losses have been the same thing:
Crappy offensive drive (usually 3 and out), deep bomb from the opponent embarrassing our secondary, other team scores; we lose.
If we can avoid any of those things, then we will have learned to close a game. Some have pointed out that we squeaked by in the AFCCG. Yes, that is a counter to what I'm saying, but you know it came perilously close to fitting this exact pattern.
The analogy with last night's game with Peyton admittedly isn't perfect as that was one weird game.
I don't expect to win every game. That is silly. What I do want is for us to win games in which we are ahead, and our offense gets the ball with under 4 minutes to go. That is incredibly reasonable of me, and for some reason our team can't pull it together.
I'm not saying we suck, or won't make the playoffs, or that we should win every game. I'm saying let's close winning games off, as I defined it above.
Thanks to those who were charitable in interpreting what I wrote, e.g., pointing out that I obviously didn't mean to say I want to play from behind every week.
Oh, and our clock management lately on offense, since JoshD came back, has been atrocious.
Yeah, that's why his W-L record in the post season is what it is...
As opposed to that stiff Brady...
And Tom nearly had at least one more...
Actual come from behind 4th quarter victories Manning has 36 to Brady's 25. Thing is those are opportunity driven and for a chunk of their career's Manning's defense provided him with more. Brady's has been seemingly driven to change that of late. However the big difference is in the number of come from behind 4th quarter drives Brady has led when it mattered most, in the playoffs and in Superbowls.
We have to be able to finish. We’ve had opportunities to close out games, and we haven’t. So we have to understand when we get in those situations, we have to be able to close the door. If we don’t close the door, we give teams life, and teams believe they’re in it. So it all starts with finishing ballgames.
San Diego didnt score a single point in the second half, San diego's offense lost the game for them, Rivers had a bigger hand in the Broncos win than Manning did, and please o please change the title of your thread