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Will we see any of our guys get extended this week?

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  1. JSn

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    Any hunches on that?

    Brandt's article at NFP got me thinking about it:
    The National Football Post | Wednesday Why’s

    Excerpt:
     
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    According to Miguel we are $4 million under cap. I can not fathom the Patriots letting that get away. I would say the question is not will we? but who?
     
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    The cap doesn't "get away". There are mechanisms to move into next year what doesn't get used this year.
     
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    Nah, it's one thing if you have way more cap space than you can reasonably rollover. If you get an extension done before the last week of the season you can still prorate a portion of the signing bonus back to this season thus lightening the load for the remainder of the deal. Plus you still have to come up with the actual cash outlay out of actual revenues and we've already shelled out quite a bit of that this season between Moss' $16M and another $8M+ in various roster bonuses. Wilfork or Brady would be the logical extention targets to prepay some salary and one is out while the other recently indicated there was no news to report on efforts to extend him. Some of the other potential extensions have questions remaining as far as long term value going forward (Gaffney, Watson, Sanders, Hobbs, Green) for a variety of reasons.

    The $4M we have left at this juncture will be rolled over and used next season to mitigate any contract incentives or escalators achieved over the course of this season or to increase our adjusted cap for 2009. We won't lose it either way.
     
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    My hunch is that nothing will get done. I would like to see any of the following extended: Wilfork, Wright, J. Sanders, O'Neal, L Sanders, Evans, Gaffney and Jordan.

     
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    Wright's going to be tough. If you're a young starting-caliber DL in a DL-starved league, you're not likely to stick around as the #5 man on a 3-man line.
     
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    I'd add Gostkowski to that list. Yeah, I might be the unofficial president of the Gostkowski fan club, but here's why I say that:

    Single-Season Field Goal % Leaders - Pro-Football-Reference.com

    Notice the ages of the folks who have 90+% seasons.

    Now take a close look at this:

    2008 Indianapolis Colts Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

    And tell me you can't see the Colts making a run at him even if he's an RFA in 2010.
     
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    If he's maintaining at that juncture either of the highest tenders would not be unreasonable and sufficient to keep ANY suitors away (the comps being first or first and third draft picks...). Remember they were not unwilling to pay Adam as the highest paid PK in the league...as long as it was on a year to year basis...
     
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    Yeah, but that's what I thought about Jarvis Green, and then he re-signed. So I think there's room for hope anyway.
     
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    That's true, but they could probably do it on a more cost-effective basis by extending him either this year or next. (I don't want to see Gostkowski kicking for anyone else, ever, and especially not the Colts or Donkeys.)
     
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    At the time we extended Jarvis we paid him borderline starters money at the time. That was a hedge against Richard due to injuries and contract extension concerns.
     
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    Mo this is interesting, couple questions regarding the Jarvis contract...

    Do you believe Jarvis is not worth his contract if Seymour is playing at a pro-bowl level?

    Do you believe the Patriots still offer him there were none of those issues with Seymour at the time?
     
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    Moot point since Richard didn't play at that level for most of that contract. If he had then close to $3M per on average would have been a lot for a backup DL by 2005 standards so I doubt they would have. He's also made his escalators per Miguel so... If Richard now does perform like a pro bowler it's no longer that much of a stretch to be paying upwards of $3.5M under an exponentially larger cap for a starting quality battle tested scheme experienced DL who also offers rotational scheme flexibility.
     
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