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  1. cupofjoe1962

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    I made a post over a month ago, in favor of drafting Beanie Wells if he was still available. Most of you were against the pick and after reading your quality posts, you convinced me we should not pick Wells.

    What about Shon Green or Rashad Jennings later in the draft?
    Green may be available in the 2nd round and Jennings could be available for our comp pick at the end of round#3. He may slip (I doubt it) to us in round #4.

    My sleeper pick is Gartrell Johnson.
    He should be available in the 4th round or later.

    I would like to get a banger.... I am sick of the Maroney two step dancing.

    What do you think?
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    As a "need," it doesn't make the shopping list. As a project, a late round back may be a good value when it's NE's time on the clock. I'd still like to grab someone to develop on the practice squad for blitz pick-up and receiver to fill Faulk's 3rd down role.
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    I don't think it is a need but RB is one of the positions you can never have enough of. There life span is so short and they take big beatings that IMO you get as many good ones as you can. So drafting one is fine by me and because I feel the only real need on this team is DB and I also feel the need there is more for Vets because of young guys like Wheatly, Whilhite, Merriweather, and Hobbs so I am OK with drafting a RB as high as one.
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    I don't want to see the Pats using a day one pick on a skill position. I think day one is primarily reserved for the big uglies at the line or a potential stud defensive back.

    Faulk took a pounding this past season & he can't be expected to repeat that same effort much longer. So adding someone on day two is certainly plausible.
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    Maybe I am wrong but wouldn't DB or at least CB be considered a Skill Position or are skill positions only on offense?
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    Seems like a good answer to me. Even if you're frustrated with Maroney, he's averaged 4.5 and 4.3 the last two years. With smart hard runners like Sammy and Lamont and Faulk showing no sign of inability to do what he does better than anyone, let's be patient with a good guy with lots of upside.

    I'd like to see them be more consistent using the run. Nothing wrong with a low rounder for the future too.
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    They've done pretty well lately finding guys that can role play (or more) at the NFL level after the Draft, i.e., The Law Firm and Patrick Cobbs.
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    Lamont is a Free Agent and while when he was healthy he was awsome I think this team has enough Band Aides (or is it Kool Aide). I totally agree with your assesment of maroney. So I think Sammy, Faulk, Maroney, and anyone else that doesn't have health issues would be good IMO plus you have Lawfirm coming back to compete in camp.

    Lawfirm will be a real interesting guy to watch this camp because we know he has gotten it done for us on the field and who knows what a year in Woicicks strength and training program can yield.
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    With a wounded Brady coming back, a full stable of RB's to keep the option open seems prudent. Brady isn't going to need rushers pinning back their ears for the first half of the season at least. As it appears Jordan won't be back, someone like Shon Greene or a Faulk repacement should be added.
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    Outside of 2 games where he played having a chip on his shoulder, Lamont was mediocre.
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    I wasn't much of a Lamont fan myself. Banged up almost all year, got to run behind the offensive line when it was healthy and run blocking real well. I think most backs could've done what he did if not better. He didn't seem to have much speed left at all.

    Rashad Jennings is the guy I want in this draft. Reminds me of Michael Turner. If they sign a vet instead, Fred Taylor's my guy as he'll likely be cut by the Jags and I think he still has enough in the tank for a damn good year or two in New England.
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    I would describe Jordan as solid and adequate. Competent. Not awesome. We're fine with Maroney, Morris, BJGE, Faulk and Evans. There's not really room for another unless there's an injury. I would consider a draftee if Maroney is still expected to struggle with the shoulder; if he's expected to be 100% finally then I wouldn't.
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    He had a 4.5 yard average and 4 TDs in the small time he played I would say that is more than adequate but my point was that we need someone who is healthier with more upside than we need another band aide that plays well when in there.
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    Been wondering if we are going to go big in the backfield, and re-draft "Garrett Mills" on day 2???

    Pretty sure someone ready this board in Feb knows the G Mills story.

    Get more protection for the Franchise, would have more size to deal with some DE's, like the Keith Byers role. Maybe play H-back, 3rd TE.

    Personally can't see RB that much of a focus on day one, but always plan for the unexpected draft pick.
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    i was against this to begin with and would still be against this if we only had one 1st round pick... BUT. If we get a highish 1st round for cassel. then when i think about it i really would not mind harvin. i think having that faulk like running back is very important to the pats offense and i know faulk had one of his best seasons last year but the guy is a freak like that its hard to expect that next yr or the yr after i hope he does but you never know. i think harvin would be good because he can play receiver but he can also be in the 3rd down shotgun package with faulk or as a replacement for faulk. other than that tho i think we are pretty set at rb atm.
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    I can see us trading Cassel for another 2nd and a future pick. Using one of those 2nds on Brown from UCONN wouldnt surprise me at all, the guy runs downhill.
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    I've pondered the value of James Casey and Shawn Nelson, but don't see it doing that much for the team. I expect Heath Evans back, we'll see if B-Jeepers has made any progress in blitz pick-up when the Training Camp reports start rolling in, I expect the Pats to sign at least one UDFA RB. More importantly, I'm looking for them to draft an interior OL to replace Hochstein or Yates behind Neal with a greater level of talent.
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    That's a round too early, but he's one I like.
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    if Donald Brown is available in the 3rd round, I'm of the opinion you have to grab him.
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    I don't think he'll be available in the 3rd round. He will test too well (speed and strength) at the combine. No one doubts his running ability. The doubts are about his speed and strength. He will test out very well on both these fronts and elevate himself in the draft.
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    We are all set at RB at the moment. I'm fine with a 5th or later to bring in competition for BJGE or to draft a future Faulk for the Practice Squad. The bottom line is that we have three running backs and a STER fullback. That's all we need for the season. BJGE as an emergency back and prospect is also fine.

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    There are a lot of athletic DE/OLB types in this draft, they can't all skyrocket up the boards off their Combine. We'll just have to wait and see how things shake out.
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    We need a RB in my humble opinion. Maroney is always "broken" and was not full time even in college. I would try to get picks for him now in his contract year. Another year of his antics and he is worthless to unload.

    I am of the opinion as Simon is about Jordan, that Maroney is mediocre. Dancing is not the way BB views his RBs to play.

    There has been some talented players in the NFL that have never made it because they were injured way to often. Maroney is "that guy".

    I will get blasted for this by the Hitler Youth, but I would take a flyer on LJ with some restrictions added, over Maroney, head case or not. He is younger than Dillon was when we got him and remember LJ played behind a pretty good RB in K.C. for a few years so his miles are less than everyone claims.
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    So, you are ok with 2 good games and the rest mediocre to below average? Because that is what Jordan put up.

    Most of his yards came in 2 games. Against the Jets and against Oakland. The rest of his yards were across 6 games. And he wasn't that impressive.
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    Maroney had 280 carries his junior year of college. Sorry that he didn't carry all 600+ times that Minnesota ran the ball that year. People need to realize that Minnesota's offense, even with Marion Barber there, split the carries between 3 and 4 backs. Because they ran the ball so much.
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    well that's why I clarified my point. I basically don't want us drafting a WR or RB early because A) they tend to cost more $ B) the injury risk is greater and C) sleepers at those positions can be had on day two.
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    You need to find a new forum to play in if that's your "take" on things. Seriously.
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    I'm generally not in favor of WRs & RBs at the top of the draft. But...

    This year RB is likely to be a devalued position because the need just isn't there across the league. Let's say the Pats do pick up something like KC's 2nd plus a 2010 conditional for Cassel, and a comp 3rd for Samuel. That gives them a whopping 6 picks out of the first 100. Doesn't that leave room for some luxury? Now imagine that Moreno falls all the way to #23...is a 3-round scenario like this so unreasonable?

    #23 Knowshon Moreno, RB
    #35 Darius Butler, CB
    #47 Jarron Gilbert, DE
    #58 Connor Barwin, OLB
    #89 Eric Wood, OG/C
    #97 Rashad Johnson, S
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