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Will the troop surge work?

  1. Yes.

    41.7%
  2. No.

    58.3%
  1. PressCoverage

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    Let's put it right out on the table. It looks like Curious George's final push for stabilization in Iraq will go through with the aid of a nice trick -- GOP stonewalling.

    Almost 4 years later, Boy King is going to finally send a few more troops. Do you think it will work, or fail, utterly?

    If possible, try and be honest with yourself and objective when answering.
     
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    Think our military is stretched too thin, has had too many rotations into this region.. may offer some temporary relief, however long term will not make much of a difference if any difference at all. I question the Iraqi security forces resolve and ability to be consistent. The religious divide has much more of an effect than we understand, and should have been planned for.
     
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    Give us your definition of success PC?
     
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    That would actually be a better question for the Bush administration, but the pill they've been trying to get us to swallow is a stable Iraq, with an effective, democratic government.
     
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    Yeah but Bush didn't put the poll up on this board.
     
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    The left wing liberal jealous Bush Hater democrats version of success is SURRENDER.

    The phony bastards aren't worried about Iraq, 9/11, protecting America or any of the other things they bleat and whail about what they really want is "BUSH DESTROYED"

    GET BUSH--GET BUSH-- GET BUSH.

    THEY CALL HIM A STUPID MORON, THE MORON BEAT THEM TWICE, :singing: :singing: THE LEFT WING NEW DEMOCRATS WERE BEATEN TWICE, BY A MORON :rocker:

    Please inform Mr PressCover that the Democrats were beaten twice by a Moron.
    Thank You
    Harry
     
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    Lol, I notice you yourself didn't vote that the surge would work. Guess you don't trust the man that beat the Democrats twice either.
     
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    I usually don't bother with jerko's polls but I will now cast my vote :rocker:
     
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    Good for you, Harry, nice to get you on the record. We'll revisit the issue when we're in the same exact situation two years from now that we're in today.
     
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    the definition of success is open to interpretation... but the question still stands... why, Mr. Black-or-White? will you, for once, be offering a gray answer in this complex world?

    those they say "yes", we should ask that they provide their definition of success... and how they honestly expect it to happen...

    me, i don't think the extra troops have a snowballs chance in hell of succeeding ... your interpretation or mine... unless, of course, it's all a rouse for a springboard into Iran, which wouldn't surprise me in the least...
     
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    I am guessing my definiton of success will be different than yours. If there is no common definition of success your polling is just trolling rather than discussing an issue.
     
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    Never mind success, what's your definition of failure?
     
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    Not my poll Patters. I am waiting to se the results. We could win militarily and still lose the war politically. That I've seen before.
     
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    This war is far too political. Has been for years now. We broadcast our tactics on TV for cripes sakes. Now you've got every politician on TV trying to secure their 2008 nomination by one upping the other guy with their criticism. We've got 90 day retreat plans, non binding resolution trash, and lots of frauds who voted for the war crying like little babies.
     
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    look at them running around avoiding the question like a giant elephant in the living room... "define it for me".... lol...

    the question is very simple, PF13... the burden is not on me to define success... be a man, and cast your vote in the "yes" column, tool...

    then explain to us how 21,500 extra men will matter.... if you have the guts...
     
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    It's funny how you shouldn't run a poll until you define success, but sending 21.5K soldiers into a war zone is OK, without a definition for success.

    Does anyone even know why we're in Iraq anymore?
     
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    What is the poll about? I might feel the operation will be a success (Sadr and the Shia militia leaders fleeing to Iran, Tribal elders helping th Iraqi Army hunt AL Queda. I doubt any of that wil matter to the left whose political success in the next few years is dependent in Us defeat in Iraq.

    I f Al Queda went away and Sadr stayed in Iran and Iraq were to work it would be a poitical disaster for the dems they can't afford to have the US be successful. Hell of place to be.
     
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    What do you think Bush's definition of success is (other than finding those WMD's)? Do you think we will acheive Bush's definition of success?
     
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    IMO the Iraqi WMD have been in Syria since before 2003. I would think that 2 objectives would be paramount, discrediting the Sadr militia and giving people confidence to turn in (rat out) the foreign Al Queda fighters.

    The vast mojority is happening in a very small area of the country.
     
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    It's the same reason we went in the first place. Geopolitical change in the ME.
     

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