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    Will Haynesworth Or Ochocinco Be Cut?
    By: Ian Logue

    An interesting mention this morning in the National Football Post about Chad Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth....

     
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    Hey Dan,

    You know what could be a great story? About how Belichick will cut Ochocinco or Haynesworth.

    Might be a nice way to stick a fly in he ointment over there. He deserves it for not giving you access like I do.

    Love ya,

    Rexy.
     
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    Ian - as I mentioned in my post in the other thread.

    To my knowledge (and I've done a lot of research on this), during his tenure, BB has never cut a player in the same year as they had re-done their contract. Not Ted Johnson. Not Ty Law. Not Lawyer Milloy.

    It is bad business to do so. Veteran players will look at it and ask why they should do it if it doesn't protect their potential to being cut. It's their only leverage.
     
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    I'd be shocked if either one was released, and thought it was a bizarre notion when I read it. Both took such big hits financially after restructuring for the chance to play here, and they also have too much upside to just discard, so needless to say I don't quite get the rationale behind it.
     
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    As I mentioned in the other thread, the only reason for this article is that Pompeii had nothing to write and that (after Brady) Ocho and Haynesworth are the two most searched for Patriot names on Google.

    Dan is just an internet writer pulling the clicks button. It's the same reason there are so many internet "articles" with Brittany Spears or Casey Anthony in the headline which have nothing to do with either.
     
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    It's just bad journalism...... It makes no sense..... moreso considering the reasons for releasing them cited in the article.

    1) Since when does BB need to resort to gimmicky BS methods to get "control" of his locker room. NEVER.

    2) Even if you assume he started resorting to a gimmicky approach like this, does it even remotely make sense that he'd burn draft picks just to bring in guys he knew he was gonna cut? Why bother restructuring them to low-risk contracts either?

    You don't even need to have a lot of knowledge of the Patriots organization (or even plain football knowledge) to see that the entire premise and underlying reasons cited make no sense. I tend to agree that this was an "junk" internet article sent out more to generate traffic then inform readers.
     
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    Neither will be cut. Even if Haynesworth is not good to go at the start of
    season, if BB feels that he is putting out he will give him the time to put it
    together. Ocho, NFW. He is sticking like glue to Brady and is determined
    to put his game back together with the help of Tom.
     
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    Not a chance. Ochocinco will be too much a part of the offense and Haynesworth had too solid a start to camp. I can't imagine it happening.
     
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    As I see things, the entire defense was reoriented to a 43 with an option to play 34 as needs be. Haynesworth's signing adds legitimacy (not to mention more speed and bulk) to that concept. Why then would coach consider cutting him?

    Why also cut 85? No reason to.

    Danny boy, as was said earlier, is just trolling for clicks and increased ad revenue.
     
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    When they were first acquired I thought it was a possibility - not a high probability, but certainly a chance - based on factors like performance in camp, injuries, learning curve in picking up a new system, and their contract (budget and cap ramifications). Frankly I thought there was a similar possibility Randy Moss would be cut when the Pats first acquired him four years ago too. However, I figured once they restructured their contracts it was extremely doubtful they would not be on the roster in week one.

    That's an interesting fact that you pulled up DaBruinz about players not be cut after restructuring; I did not know that. That's something worth remembering and noting in future years.

    Pompei is a writer who has been around for quite some time, and generally does good work. But I don't think he made a strong enough point that the executive he quoted made that statement the day before the two players restructured their contracts.

    All Pompei had to do was add one more sentence, about how that factor surely changes the chances of that happening - but he didn't. Sure, he notes it by saying "one day before this story came out", but it's way too easy to gloss over that and instead focus on what immediately follows: "one NFL executive familiar with the Patriots ways told me he believes one or both of the big name acquisitions will be cut before the season starts".

    Pompei should have just added one more line, saying something like 'by restructuring their contracts the chances of either player being cut is far less likely', or words to that effect. Did he accidentally fail to make that point of emphasis? Did he purposely leave that out in order to stir some debate? Did he perhaps initially have that line in their and his editor told him to remove it? Regardless of what the case may be, it's a critical factor that changes the speculation dramatically.
     
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    The rumor drumbeat had Randy Moss being cut at the end of his first training camp here as well.
     
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    Quoting Charlie Casserly is not a good thing for any writer to maintain his credibility.
     
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    Which team is Casserly a executive for????
     
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    CBS. :singing:
     
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    I agree with several posters that this is an example of bad journalism. AL & 85 need to play in a game or two before anyone can judge them. If they play in a game or two and stink up the place, then we can entertain speculation that their time is up...
     
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    Or this is the jedi master himself putting something out there knowing that it'll leak out for these guys to hear... Simultaneously messing with the media. Bwahahaha!
     
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    Barring any type of tantrum about playing time or messing up the TEAM concept in the locker room,there is NO chance either gets released.
     
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    Assuming the question means "before the season begins," No. More than enough reasons already cited.
     
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