Will both the OL and DL be the Pat's best ever?

[BTTA]

The DL talent is excellent and deep. The injuries to the OL last year created perhaps the deepest line in the league, enough so that a tackle who started in the Super Bowl only two years ago was expendable.

With all the talk about Branch and LB depth, this could be the most important factor in the team's success this year.

 

[Patriots4Ever]

The DL talent is excellent and deep. The injuries to the OL last year created perhaps the deepest line in the league, enough so that a tackle who started in the Super Bowl only two years ago was expendable.

With all the talk about Branch and LB depth, this could be the most important factor in the team's success this year.

Agreed,And welcome to the boards...

 

[RoughingthePasser]

The DL talent is excellent and deep. The injuries to the OL last year created perhaps the deepest line in the league, enough so that a tackle who started in the Super Bowl only two years ago was expendable.

With all the talk about Branch and LB depth, this could be the most important factor in the team's success this year.

This may not be the most important topic for all the band-wagon *****es....buit it's true. The game is won in the trenches. This may be the best O-line and D-line-we'll see how we do. We have great depth at these positions too. We may not be as flashy for the bandwagoners and red sox fans but we will dominate up front and hopefully :

1. teach Rothlisbooger that he's lucky to be alive and have the SB ring he stole from TB after the Denver bus ran us over

2. Make Peyton cry again

3. Make Cowher's jaw fall off

Nobody likes to get robbed.
Payback is a *****-and it won't be pretty

 

[TruthSeeker]

I think D-line is the best ever. The O-Line with Hannah-Gray and Pete Brock was pretty darned good back in the 70's. Don't we still hold some rushing records ?

 

[Digger44]

welcome aboard. this may shock you but many here want to claim that this DL is not deep and not the best bcs it is only a 3 man front. i doubt they will address this thread, but there has been a press all preseason to "deepen a shallow DL." of course, they havnt opened their mouths as of late, but i agree that this DL is great and deep.

 

[TruthSeeker]

If the Pats go to situational 4-3, can you imagine the possibilities ? Seymour-Warren-Wilfork-Green, or Seymour -Sullivan-Wilfork-Warren. Seymour was drafted as a DT, so can you imagine him reining havoc in the middle with Wilfork, with pass rushing specialist Green and Warren coming from the outside. Warren may be one of the best run stopping DE's in the game. Seymour may be the best D-Lineman in the game, period. Wilfork has been rated in the top 3 NT's in the game. Add possibly Sullivan on the inside, or Seymour. On passing downs, rush 4, plus Colvin & Vrabel from the outside, pretty scary for opposing offenses.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

If the Pats go to situational 4-3, can you imagine the possibilities ? Seymour-Warren-Wilfork-Green, or Seymour -Sullivan-Wilfork-Warren. Seymour was drafted as a DT, so can you imagine him reining havoc in the middle with Wilfork, with pass rushing specialist Green and Warren coming from the outside. Warren may be one of the best run stopping DE's in the game. Seymour may be the best D-Lineman in the game, period. Wilfork has been rated in the top 3 NT's in the game. Add possibly Sullivan on the inside, or Seymour. On passing downs, rush 4, plus Colvin & Vrabel from the outside, pretty scary for opposing offenses.

C'mon 99, quit forgetting your jersey buddy.

 

[RayClay]

I think D-line is the best ever. The O-Line with Hannah-Gray and Pete Brock was pretty darned good back in the 70's. Don't we still hold some rushing records ?

The OLine is young and damn good, let's leave it at that.

Hard to compare a 3 to a 4 man line, but this DL is young and the skies the limit!

These guys were pretty good too. Larry Eisenhauer, Bob Dee, Houston Antwine, Jim Lee Hunt.

I believe we hold the all time season rushing record and that was without a 1,000 yard rusher.

I'm going on memory here, so bombs away if I have my facts wrong.

 

[shakadave]

D-line yes. O-line no. Maybe in another year.

 

[PlattsFan]

I think D-line is the best ever. The O-Line with Hannah-Gray and Pete Brock was pretty darned good back in the 70's. Don't we still hold some rushing records ?

Yeah, that O-line was ridiculous. I remember hearing of one preseason game where Fairbanks told them he was going to call the same running play (a basic little off-guard inside run) until they scored a touchdown, and once they did, they could leave the game.

One eight-play drive later, they were in the end zone.

Think about that ... that is one crazy-good O-line to be able to do that ...

This O-line is a good group, but they can't touch that 70s line.

The D-line I think could be the best, though. I can't think of one better, and Seymour could be the best Pats defensive lineman ever, imo.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Yeah, that O-line was ridiculous. I remember hearing of one preseason game where Fairbanks told them he was going to call the same running play (a basic little off-guard inside run) until they scored a touchdown, and once they did, they could leave the game.

One eight-play drive later, they were in the end zone.

Think about that ... that is one crazy-good O-line to be able to do that ...

This O-line is a good group, but they can't touch that 70s line.

The D-line I think could be the best, though. I can't think of one better, and Seymour could be the best Pats defensive lineman ever, imo.

Platts, how long have you been a Pats fan ? I've been a fan since 1975, Little Mack Herron was the reason I became a fan, albeit a bit late at age 13. I grew up in NYC and was a Jets fan by birth, but I became a Pats follower in 1975, and a full time fan in 1976. I know, I know, I jumped on the 1976 Pats bandwagon, lol. I got my first Pats jersey in 1976 (Randy Vataha's #18).

 

[RayClay]

welcome aboard. this may shock you but many here want to claim that this DL is not deep and not the best bcs it is only a 3 man front. i doubt they will address this thread, but there has been a press all preseason to "deepen a shallow DL." of course, they havnt opened their mouths as of late, but i agree that this DL is great and deep.

I've missed all these posts, could you direct me?

Of course a big part of our former "depth", Klecko and Hill, stands a good chance of being supplanted by Mike Wright or 2 of three players not on the team last year, (Santonio on the PS).

Apparently BB thought the depth could be improved.

 

[Digger44]

I've missed all these posts, could you direct me?

Of course a big part of our former "depth", Klecko and Hill, stands a good chance of being supplanted by Mike Wright or 2 of three players not on the team last year, (Santonio on the PS).

Apparently BB thought the depth could be improved.

adding one guy who is not a lock at this time to even make the team is certainly not adding depth. you have no way of knowing if wright will make the cut. you have no clue what BB thinks about our depth and are arrogant to even suggest that you do. what BB is known for is creating competition at roster spot and selecting the best man for the position, not bowing to a bunch a idiot posters who want to convert to a 4-3 and think we need 6 all pro dlineman. apparently BB thought he could create a football team and no take ideas from monday morning qb's and media.

 

[wistahpatsfan]

Last night Mike Wright, an undrafted free agent last year, made two sacks and played very solid on all the plays he was in. Gives you an idea of the depth on this team.

 

[RayClay]

adding one guy who is not a lock at this time to even make the team is certainly not adding depth. you have no way of knowing if wright will make the cut. you have no clue what BB thinks about our depth and are arrogant to even suggest that you do. what BB is known for is creating competition at roster spot and selecting the best man for the position, not bowing to a bunch a idiot posters who want to convert to a 4-3 and think we need 6 all pro dlineman. apparently BB thought he could create a football team and no take ideas from monday morning qb's and media.

I'll say Sullivan, LeKevin and Santonio Thomas look like better depth than Klecko and Hill.

That's my opinion.

Since we had a great 1st off the bench in Green, I never worried much about our DLine depth like I did at most other positions.

With the stocking up I think our depth and frontline should be awesome.

 

[PlattsFan]

Platts, how long have you been a Pats fan ? I've been a fan since 1975, Little Mack Herron was the reason I became a fan, albeit a bit late at age 13. I grew up in NYC and was a Jets fan by birth, but I became a Pats follower in 1975, and a full time fan in 1976. I know, I know, I jumped on the 1976 Pats bandwagon, lol. I got my first Pats jersey in 1976 (Randy Vataha's #18).

I've never not been a Patriots fan, but my first football memory was seeing the Oakland Raiders go nuts after winning that Ben Dreith game while my father muttered angrily. I was 6 at the time, but I can still picture those ragged, ugly-looking Raiders whoopin' it up.

I remember Hannah, of course, but don't remember Gray. When you're 6 or 7, linemen aren't really on your radar. Most of what I know about the 70s teams comes from later information, although I do remember '78 and I loved Sam Bam Cunningham, mostly because his name reminded me of Bam-Bam from the Flinstones ...