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    It Is What It Is Vince Wilfork on D&C: Brandon Meriweather illegal hit sparked Patriots

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    Oy, Vince. I wouldn't celebrate this too much. How about you tell Merriweather the hit would be perfect if he could aim it about a foot lower and keep his head up?
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    Honestly, I think Vince will find a way to support his team mates no matter what they do.
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    I actually LOVE Big Vince. It cracks me up how huge he is and how fast he moves! I also thought it was touching that he teared up about Moss being traded. Did you see him whooping it up when the Ravens FB got called for the unsportsmanlike in OT? He was giddy because he knew the Pats had forced the chippy Ravens into a huge mistake. You go Vince! (but I still don't think he should be celebrating Merriweather's hit. Heap could have been really hurt on that play. I was shocked that he came back into the game.).
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    Hope Vince and the boys find someone else to motivate them in San Diego 'cause Punky Meriweather is getting suspended for that cheap shot.
    BTW why do Dale and Holley bother having him on their show?? He giggles like Liberace and brings no indepth analysis on anything. Why is he on??
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    not a sharp thing for a guy who's perceived as somewhat dirty to be saying publicly... this is the kind of thing that will raise a ref's eyebrows and make them pay just a little closer attention to the way you play ball.
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    And this has been announced where?
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    Ive seen worse and no one was suspended, in fact there was one were it wasn't called and there was no fine. So i'd be surprised if he was.
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    Belichick looked upset with Merriweather but I am not sure if it was about the hit or the 15 yards it cost us. I think BB likes players that lay the wood.

    Let's not forget, a lot of us have jerseys of one of the greatest hard shot artists in the history of the game (#37, Rodney Harrison) and I used to love watching Doug Plank, Jack Tatum and Chuck Cecil lay people out.

    I would rather have Brandon trying to knock people out and send a message for other recievers venturing into our secondary than be worried about pulling up or scaling back his game.

    Of course, there is a dangerous downside and football is a violent sport and I am glad the league regulates it so we have no more Stingley-type incidents...

    ...but you gotta admit, when Brandon laid that wood and you saw Heap's mouthpiece fly out into the air, you liked it! I KNOW I did!
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    The NFL does not want head shots. They've made that clear yet the message is not being received. The hits just keep coming and they're getting more and more vicious. Suspending players will get the message across.
    Watch it happen.
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    Meriweather said this AM that he's been told several times today (I'd imagine by his coaches...) that if he held his position he would have intercepted that ball instead of blowing a third down stop. But he doesn't care. He wouldn't change anything. That's the way he plays. Yeah, stupid...

    Jason LaCanfora tweeted that Ray Anderson has stated this AM that the league is prepared to hand out suspensions for helmut to helmut hits, including for players not previously fined for illegal hits... Brandon better hope they mean going forward, or he's toast.
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    I'm not a fan of illegal hits, but to be honest I don't think Meriweather intended to hit the much larger Heap helmet to helmet, as he could have very easily injured himself, as well.

    I do think Brandon intended to spear Heap, which is illegal, but guess what top level Safety leads with his helmet all the time? Bob Sanders. I'm not saying that means everyone should go in helmet first, but Sanders gets away with it on a weekly basis (when he's healthy), and if people are talking about a suspension for Meriweather, then a number of defenders around the league should get suspended. You don't want to be giving up fifteen yard penalties when you should be off the field, either. So, I'm sure NE's coaching staff will talk with Meriweather, and give him a refresher on what they expect from him. I just hope he keeps laying the wood, as his physicality is something NE sorely needs in the secondary. He just needs to lead with his shoulder.

    On a side note, another thing that happens in the trenches a little to often for my taste, is helmet to knee contact by offensive linemen. I've taken a helmet to the knee from guards, and tackles a number of times, and I've suffered my most career threatening injuries from said contact.
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    The defense DID seem to turn it around after that hit and start playing with a lot more intensity. Meriweather was laying the wood all day yesterday. Twice to Heap, once to Mason, and once to Boldin going out of bounds. I think Chung also got in on the act and cleaned Boldin's clock on the goal line. This team is laying the wood and I like it.
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    I was talking about this topic last night with a friend and also had the same observation as Vince, we did play better after that hit. Do I wanna see people hurt or paralyzed of course not, but its sends a huge message(to NE and Balt), doubt creeps in the Offense and gets us fired up on D.
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    I was very happy to see the other hits (not including the one where Heap was injured). I think receivers will be a bit more cautious in the future when playing against the Pats, like it used to be.
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    They started playing with discipline and quit making stupid mistakes. That penalty wiped out a third down stop. He's lucky his teamates held their ground on that drive thereafter while he sat on the bench... Given his truly foolish attitude again this AM, he basically giggled his way through another interview like the village idiot refusing to take any accountability for his lack of discipline because that's his game and who he is... Bill put him in position to make a pick on that ball, instead he launched and hit a receiver who was already tackled and had missed the ball and cost his team field position if not a turnover. You can hit hard and still play smart, disciplined team football.
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    I addressed this in the other thread. While the hit could have been better, it was also the result of mistiming. When you have a safety who likes to lay the wood, that's going to happen from time to time. And yes, he is lucky that the defense held their own. I was one of the people screaming at the TV yesterday after that. However, Meriweather also broke up what would have been a sure fire TD on the goal line yesterday had it not been for a B.S. penalty. That was a hit that was timed perfectly. It seems Chung took a page from his book toward the end of the game as well when he dislodged a ball right on the goal line.
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    Did Eric Smith get suspended after he did the same to Welker in the Jets game? No. It's a fine, not a suspension unless the policy changed since then. That wouldn't really sound like even-handed treatment of infractions without a recent warning from the NFL.
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    If you read the full quote, on ESPNboston.com i believe, the reason he was defending his behavior is not because he was proud of making the dirty hit. He was talking about how they ran that play in practice many times, and every time Meriweather held back, it resulted in a long completion.

    Meriweather also said in the interview that he did not intend to hit Heap helmet-to-helmet. He said that Heap is a friend of his, and he has already called Heap to apologize for the hit. Meriweather was not defending the dirtiness of the hit, he was defending his aggressiveness, and he should - I want that guy making plays, not being Johnathan Wilhite who is always around the ball but never actually breaking up the pass.


    Like BB says, do your job. Meriweather's job on that play is to prevent Heap from catching the ball, and avoid getting a penalty. However, if one or the other is going to happen, I'd rather he risk the penalty and make sure the receiver doesn't catch the ball.
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    Well maybe they eventually will, and if BM gets suspended he deserves it, and will be replaced.
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    Dont be, there was a spate of them this weekend and an outcry for the rules to be enforced. The refs can and will probably in the future start ejecting players from the game after hits like that.
    That said, I dont think Merriweather intened to hit helmet to helmet but rather hit him in the midsection. He will get fined and Id bet my house theres suspensions handed down this week to a few players.
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    It would be pretty crappy if he got suspended for that hit, where's jim leohanard's? The league should send out a notice that suspensions will be handed out now for this before they start suspending players for hits that they weren't suspending them for before.
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    Do you really think suspending players for unintentional hits is going to have an affect?
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    Wait, you mean MLR mischaracterized what Meriweather actually said?

    Knock me over with a feather.
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    It wasn't this week, didn't someone try to decapitate Welker last year and there wasn't a flag or fine? I just remember it being a very vicious cheap shot.
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    No, but my opinion doesnt matter, Im just going by whats happened this weekend, all of a sudden theres an outcry for these hits and you know Goody-L is going to so something.
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    I went one better, I listened to the whole interview live, which isn't easy with Brandon who giggled his way through most of it like the immature kid he is...
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