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  1. The Brandon Five

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    If we were not lied to about the reasoms to invade Iraq. there would not be any documents to release... it is not about home or visitor team, it is about the lies of George and his merry bunch of draft dodging neo cons...

    Have not read the whole thing and probably will never, but one issue struck me was that Iran was supporting the Iraqi resistance... an unintended consequence...

    Prior to our invasion of Iraq, Iraq and Iran were sworn enemies... and our actions essentially destablized the whole balance in the ME... why none of the draft dodging neo cons could not see that is amazing...

    Our actions there have done nothing positive, we have killed over 100 K women and children(collateral damage), destroyed a country, seen over 4K+ of our troops killed, 33K+ injured, and a total current cost of 700 billion and the "legacy" costs of our wounded vets will be over 1.3 trillion..

    What did we accomplish, besides bankrupting our country???

    Over and over again will hear about how bad Hussein was, if he was so bad why didn't we take him out through covert ops... it would have been a whole lot cheaper, and less lives lost.
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    Pretty sure that was an "away" game.
    The Iraq war reminded me of a football game I went to recently. UMass at Michigan (my best friend's kid plays for UMass). We gave them hell, it was close, but we went home with an "L". Afghanistan is more like UMass going into Boise State or Oregon. No chance in hell. Around the second quarter you want to go home but you can't. Seems to take forever until you get on the plane. 52-9

    Looking forward to that game with NH at Foxboro! Truck leaves in 15 min!
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    This viewpoint is frightening.

    So basically, you have zero morals or integrity whatsoever, and are upset if THE TRUTH about shady American actions abroad comes out.
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    Freedom and Information come at a cost, you want to trade your liberty and freedom for security???

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out:cool:


    Said it 9 years ago and going to say in once more, we should of never gone over there in the first place, we were not at war with Iraq we are at war with Al-Qaeda. Now we have the blood of 100k people on all of our hands, Thanks G.Bush!!

    Stupid sheep get scared and make stupid choices.....When the blind lead the blind they both fall into a ditch.....
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    Sounds like this document leak shows most civilian casualities were from sectarian violence.
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    Our invasion directly contributed to all of this...
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    The number of causalities (of all sorts) according to these docs is 100k, terrible, however the Saddam regieme was murdering people wholesale for years as we saw from the gas attacks and mass graves.


    BTW the real number of causalities were far less than the left had been claiming.
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    The Saddam regime that WE put in power, you mean. Funny how we all of a suddenly have a problem with murdering dictators when they are no longer puppets of our government.

    WW


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    So previous to us invading Iraq, Muslim sects all got along great and would never resort to violence?
    Or are you mad about "just" the 100k deaths that have taken place within that particular border during the last 7 years?
    In other words you're more a fan of using this as political fodder as opposed to actually being outraged at pointless deaths, which have been going on and on for ages in the middle east.
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    Saddam had been in power for many years what are you talking about?
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    Some posters think our military men are the bad guys, should have seen how the lefties were judging the Haditha soldiers as guilty before their trials.
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    Amen. But unfortunately, for some reason, there is a group of people in this country always looking to blame America first for all the world's problems. We know who they are and they know who they are. They are shameful, lowlife, unappreciative pieces of turd.
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    Wait what? I don't recall this, though I could very well be mistaken. Links please?
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    I am outraged that this action essentially bankrupted our country, that 4K+ soldiers died, 33k+ were maimed, we destroyed a country and for no valid reason...

    The number for collateral damage now exceeds 150K women and children, nice..

    There was no valid reason to invade Iraq, no reason for all of these american deaths and no reason to destabilize an entire region of the world based on lies..

    I was outraged when it was presented, outraged at the time of the invasion and my passion has not lessened one iota....
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    Yeah, I wouldn't expect that they would. It will always be speculation and hearsay, until documents can be dug out that prove otherwise. I'm sure if it was the case it is so buried that it will take a long, long time for factual documentation to be publicly released.

    It shouldn't be that surprising though, it's not the first time we have done and I'm sure it won't be the last. Iran was a threat during that time and they saw it as a means to an end. Instead they built a huge problem.
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    The right so loves the troops, that they vote against their basic needs 92% of the time.. a whole bunch of lip service, yellow ribbon wearing and flag waving.. but bottom line is they do not really give a shyt about our veterans..
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    You need to stop listening to Faux News .

    The US financed Saddam with billions, gave him chemical weapons too, in order to act as a buffer with Iran. Iran, by the way, was pissed off at us because they found out we toppled their democratically elected leader in 1953 who wouldn't be our puppet.

    Meanwhile, we funded and trained Osama Bin Laden, who was a CIA AGENT for the US for over 20 years, in our fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan.


    It's called blow back. Look it up.
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    No, I have problem with giving our enemies operational details while the troops are still in the field.
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    What operational details???

    Most of what has been published are internal military communications that have already occurred...
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    Pentagon Vets Iraq Documents WikiLeaks May Post - WSJ.com

    In your "reading" did you notice that they found WMD's? That Iran was supplying chemical weapons?
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    If this is a matter of national security, can this guy be assasinated or something? I'm just curious. It seems wierd that someone could so openly post top secret material that endangers both our troops, and our country, without any recourse.
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    Prior to this conflict Iran and Iraq were mortal enemies, after they became strange bedfellows...

    No I did not find anything about WMD's...

    Without regard if that rumpswab of the right, GWB, did not lie about this whole brou ha ha none of this would have happened, too bad there was no outrage when he and his merrry bunch of draft dodging neo cons led us into this mess that bankrupted this nation..

    Just misdirected rage again, be mad at Assange, but excuse George Bush and he merry bunch of Neo Cons...
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    Not only that, but Spc. Bradley Manning should face capital punishment.
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    I wonder who's protecting Wikileaks/Julian Assage, and why;)
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    Agreed!!!!!
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    Every time we go to war based on false pretenses this shyt happens, see the Pentagon Papers and now this...

    If Bush did not lie, none of this would have happened...

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