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    Aside from the whole Brady getting older, team on the verge thing... The Pats chose to accept the additional cap space from Dallas/ Wash for this year as opposed to next year. By not spending to the cap this year would simply be throwing money away. They must have bigger plans
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    So even though the Pats can roll over any cap money not spent this year into next year's cap, any cap money not spent this year is throwing away money?

    Sorry any cap money not spent this year just means more cap room in 2013.
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    I thought there was a min. of what teams could spend and it was like 98% of the cap? Anyways you gotta leave a few mill to sign players to replace injured guys. Just relax, 1.6 Mill isn't anything to get worked up about in March.
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    Its a matter of them spending the additional 16 mil to make it worth keeping the additional 1.8mill. Of course expecting much for some members on this board not to be overly protective and intelligent was thinking a little too much.
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    Well they won't spend TO IT because there is a need for a cushion, but otherwise I tend to agree. You do know though that if they do not, they can carry what they don't use forward to next year. They did that this year.
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    Again people, how did the major cap spenders like washington start this FA season with the 5th most money of all teams. People its all accounting stop qouting stories from the 2003 boston heralds.
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    Because they have no players left. And they cheated by dumping 36mill into 2010 that they now have to take off their cap.
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    Andy,

    Cap space is only fun if you use it. Again that 1.8 goes to waste this year. I cheer onSundays, not for cap space.
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    If you don't understand what the salary cap is, you aren't going to by posting a couple of wiseass sentences.
    What 1.8 is going to waste? The team has more needs than cap room. They are going to spend all but a safety net.
    The fact that they aren't giving all to one guy is a combination of sound roster building principals and a concept that appears to be over your head.
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    They need to spend at least 16 mill to make keeping that 1.8 worth it. Not hard to understand. Look at history- the years pats were active in FA they went to SB, years they were not they fell shorr.
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    Its fine. If next year the Pats secondary is getting torched again and they cant score on d's who take away the middle of the field we can all puff out our chests that the Pats did not overpay. All im sayin is dont take the 1.8 that can only be used this year if you dont use it, and it only counts if you at least use the first 16 mil to get to the 1.8
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    You are making no sense.
    What makes you think they won't spend to the cap? And if they don't they can carry that money to next year.
    The Patriots have signed FAs every year. The level and expense depends on how much cap room they have vs the needs they have.
    If you go to Vegas for a month, get the most expensive hooker for 24 hours, and gamble away the rest of your stash, you had 1 day of excitement and 29 sleeping in the streets. Why can you not understand that having cap money left to spend 31 hours into the league year isn't something to be concerned about.
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    So what you are saying is the only way to improve the team is to blow the cap on 2 players and sign 20 UDFAs?

    They are going to use the cap. It doesnt expire in 1 day.

    Are you suggesting the best thing to do IS to overpay then not have enough to sign the other players we need?
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    Andy is right, you need a few mil up your sleeve to account for injuries and mid season acquisitions. If you spend to the cap at the start of the season, what do you do when you put guys on IR mid season. Vet minumium guys brought in during the season would cost $600-900k and even rookies being elevated add a few hundred grand. Don't forget we still need to add another $1-2mil for rookies and re-sign some of our own guys. $16mil seems like a lot, but it goes pretty quickly, even if you aren't signing big names. The ridiculous inflation in free agent contracts so far has really put the Pats out of any of the top or 2nd tier guys. Just be patient and there will be some bargains later when teams fill up all their cap space and there are still some decent players available.
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    OMG the pats took the additional
    1.8 this year. They can not use it next year. That means any salary cap left over 1.8 is wasted. By accepting the 1.8 they basically told the NFL they want that money this year.
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    No offense, but you really don't have a clue what you are talking about.

    First, the Pats nor any other team had an option of when to take the extra money. The league applied it to every team's cap this year except four teams to inflate the cap for each team so the cap wouldn't go down.

    Second, the new CBA allows every team to push any unused cap money into the following year if they want. So if the Pats do not use that $1.8 million this year, they can opt to add it to next's year's cap. As far as I know, there is no special provision for that $1.8 million is an one year only type of deal.

    Third, no team in the NFL spends 100% to the cap. Never happens.

    BTW, it was $1.6 million, not $1.8 million.
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