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Why not trade Tate to Arizona or San Fran???

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  1. TheSolderKing

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    or whomever? he would never pass through waivers and we could get back our late round picks we gave up for ocho... Tate will be odd man out why not make the trade and get late picks? I'd hate to see him a NYJ
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    It seems like we will carry some extra linemen this year and another WR makes little sense on our 53 w/ 3 QBS and a ST Gunner, P,K, Mallett.


    That is 4 slots by itself



    there are sooooo many teams that need to fill cap space they would jump @ this offer
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    If it is indeed an absolute fact that he is going to be cut, then why would they or any other team give up anything for him? SF already has Michael Crabtree and Braylon Edwards; it's not as if they're desperate for a receiver. If Tate is as bad as some here are proclaiming him to be then I don't know if he's an upgrade over Chansi Stuckey or Early Doucet in Arizona.
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    He's still our best KR until proven otherwise. The guys that would most likely replace him are Price and Vereen for that role. Reports say Price has really struggled in the return game thus far and Vereen is injured / unknown.. I see no reason to ditch Tate so easily. Especially with an older, injury prone Branch. Can we play a few preseason games before we start suggesting to trade players? These roster battles tend to work themselves out.
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    Just a random guess, but probably because no one would give anything for him? Maybe a bag of footballs or a tackle dummy.
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    A 5th round Pick or a 6th round pick is quite generous for a round 2 selection that just doesn't fit into our system. Who is to say he would not succeed elsewhere like TB or whoever? A round 2 pick is $$$ TB has to fill lots of cap space upon other teams. He is wqorth a shot for such a low value pick given to us.


    I will wait through pre-season. I just do not foresee us carrying all of our WR's
    We will surely carry more DL and LB's this year which works against Tate. I like Tate for his reverse plays and kickoff returns. How will he crack our 53 guys? I just do not see it.


    someone called him a 1 trick pony and that is what he is
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    You don't trade for the sake of trading.

    Having depth never hurts.
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    When you propose a trade is has to be based on the needs of the other team..not based on who you think could use him.

    He did a good job returning punts, also injuries sometimes create slots... your suggestion may be premature.
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    i agree.... but when he is claimed on waivers and we get nothing for it. he would NEVER pass through waivers unclaimed:eek:

    he will only be depth for TC/Pre-season... I am saying after TC/Pre-season we should do this.\\\


    I very much do love depth. I agree it is premature. I like to look beyond the present a a great deal as ya'll can tell
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    Chad Jackson 2.0
    Taylor Price , the next.
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    Why would we care if he doesn't pass through waivers if cut? Waiver claim or not somebody's going to pick him up.
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    Is there any basis for the speculation? Or is this simply the latest iteration of "cut/trade <insert rookie here>" because he didn't set the world on fire his first year in the league?
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    They'd be lucky to get a 7th for him.
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    why this hate for Tate?
    next year Ocho,Welker and Branch will be FA and we cut guys with one/two year?:bricks:
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    ppl talked about depth... i was saying after TC and Pre we can trade him for late rounder(s) Teams that don't get 1st claim b/c of the rule would benefit by a trade to acquire him:cool:
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    It isn't about hating on Tate, it is about liking the other guys better and knowing somebody probably will have to go
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    Then I'd think Tampa Bay, Seattle, Indy, Baltimore or Kansas City would be more logical trade partners than Arizona or San Francisco, as they'd stand to lose in the waiver process and may wish to pick up someone like Tate for depth.
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    I can't see him being cut.
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    I don't see how our best KR and one of the best in the league and a good depth guy as a WR will get cut while someone like Slater stays on the team. I'm sure someone else can step up as a gunner for this team. What else is Slater good for?
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    While I think the OP is dramatically overestimating Tate's trade value, it's true that there's always a flurry toward the end of camp of teams trying to turn their #54 and #55 guys into late picks. The Pats have done that sucessfully a number of times -- Russ Hochstein, LeKevin Smith, maybe Billy Yates? And in the other direction, didn't they give up a last-minute pick for Tracy White last year?
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    Don't count your depth before it hatches. We're a Branch injury away from Tate fighting for a top-3 WR spot.
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    I think Tate makes this team. And either Edelman/Price get cut, probably Julian.
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    Tate's best contribution is prb as a return man. SF has Ted Ginn JR, and ARI has LaRod Stephens-Howling, so neither team makes much sense.

    Not to mention Brandon Tate isn't as bad as everyone thinks he is. In 2007 Donte Stallworth was the #3 guy behind Moss and Welker and had 46 catches for 697 yards and 3 TD's. Now you have more weapons with the TE's in the mix. Tate is not gonna be 1,000 Yard WR in this offense, nor do we need him to be.

    Tate's Rookie year was wiped out, last year was his first year he played and how many good WR's don't break out until year #3? Also at least he stayed on the field for 16 games last year, Edelman and Branch have a record of not being able to stay healthy. Don't forget Tate is a bigger WR @ 6'1 195 lbs with very good speed.
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    This is like people on the draft forum doing mock drafts with trades, X10. I guess they assume other teams are just willing to trade to whatever the Patriots want to do.

    Has SF shown any interest in Tate? If so, how does the OP know this? Link, or does the OP have a insider in the SF front office? How does the OP know that BB is wanting to trade Tate?

    I need to know this before I can take this proposed trade seriously.
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    Lot of hate for Tate on this board. I don't really understand why. Don't be so quick to beat the guy up, considering last year was his rookie year. Let's see what he does, I'd hate to see him get cut because he has so much potential. Let's not forget Branch isn't the most durable guy out there.
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    this is like 90% of all proposed fantasy football trades.
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    1.) Last year wasn't Tate's rookie year

    2.) Analysis that isn't favorable is not the same thing as hate

    3.) Troy Brown apparently has "hate" for Tate, because he has questioned Tate, just as many here have
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    why would we want to get rid of Edelman??? He's even better, more versatile and more valuable than Tate.
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    i think he's a good KR but i would not be shocked if he was cut BB does not have good luck with 3rd round picks
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