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Why isn't Gillette Stadium as loud as other stadiums

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  1. TommyBrady12

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    #12 Jersey

    good question, is it the accousitics or the crowd itself? I happen to think and most people might not agree with me that northeasterners in general are more quiet in general than elsewhere. i see the same thing in Yankee stadium and other places. You go to the south for an SEC football game, boy it's a big difference. We've been raised to be "proper" and not rowdy.
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    Maybe the fans should lube up? :confused2:
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    #12 Jersey

    Gillette is a pancake compared to Seattles echo-chamber-of-madness. Poor design gives you flat short lived sound, that puts fans in a position of picking and choosing certain games worthy of blowing out their vocal cords.

    It's actually tragic because it's not their fault and they get a ton of flack for it. Seattle fans would fair no better, that's a promise. Spend a few minutes looking at the design, it's horrendous.

    Screw Seattle fans, I'm sick of them taking all the credit for state of the art engineering:p

    EDIT: Then again it's only 8 games they have to go buck wild, that's not to much.
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    So then the place can get loud despite the design and acoustics.
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    Your welcome. I was there screaming until the very last snap. By the end of the game, the stands were empty enough that I was able to snake my way down to row 20 on the 50 yard line. One of the best experiences I have ever had in my life was being part of that crowd noise. Not *quite* as meaningful as the birth of my first daughter. :)

    But note if that had been Arrowhead, it would have been absolutely deafening. That's the point. To create that level of noise at Arrowhead would take MUCH less effort.

    People here acting like acoustics/geometry aren't important are absolute idiots. Ask anyone that has actually played in a stadium.

    Here's a thought experiment: shape a stadium like a pancake, with seats back from the field by 1/4 mile, and seats 10 feet apart, with no walls. Second, a stadium shaped like a beer mug, seating starts 15 feet from the field, and the stadium has a cap on top, with seats basically on top of one another the angle in the stands is so steep. Each stadium holds the same number of people. Have each person "scream" at 50 dB, and stand at the 50 yard line. Which would be worse for an offense?

    Basically, Gillette is a pancake. Yes, of course you can make noise in such a configuration, you idiots, but that doesn't mean it is easy or the same as every other stadium.

    Do not even reply unless you have looked at the images on page 2 of this thread. This is like arguing with creationists. Jeez. :eat1:
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    Preach it, Brother Neuro!! :rocker:

    How is it even possible to fail to grasp the dramatic handicap that PanCake Stadium imposes on noise levels?? :confused:

    It is astonishing to me that anyone can't grasp these simple basics.
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    The other essential point is that Gillette crowds are no different than crowds in every other NFL stadium. Some games they're rowdier/louder than other games -- depending on opponent, game situations, etc. There is nothing inherently lacking in the makeup of Pats fans attending games at Gillette.
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    #37 Jersey

    Is there anyone left on this board who can discuss a topic without calling everyone who doesn't agree with them an idiot? Did Dabruinz and Patfanin pittsburgh teach a debating skills class?

    No one is denying that the build of the stadium does not lend itself to amplifying or retaining sound. That's assuming there is sound to amplify and retain. I know of no other stadium where fans tell other fans to be quiet and I've been to more than one game where the crowd's been very quiet.

    It seems like most are saying it's the design of the stadium but still saying the they can make noise when the want to. Well which one is it? Maybe it's both, maybe it's just not the most vocal crowd to begin with but that they're not helped out by the stadium design.
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    How many times do I have to say it? Yes, it's possible but the occasions are far and few compared to Arrowhead, because it takes a lot more effort to raise the decibel level at Gillette than at Arrowhead and some people here have interpreted that as being an indication of fanbase loyalty and enthusiasm.
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    I was asked to be quiet in Toronto at a Red Sox game. Couldn't believe my ears!
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    The issue I have is people on here basically have said that sometimes there isn't much noise...but Gillette is quite open so it's a good excuse to not put in the extra effort.

    You have 16 games (up to 19/20 if you're lucky enough) to cheer for. BIG DEAL. Five frigging months of your life to 'put out' for the team you love. Non-season ticket holders maybe not even that much.

    I watch every home game my local soccer team has and I know a lot of fans who attend every away game too. That's 46 league games that spans nine months. That doesn't include cup games of which you play at least three and more if you progress on in the competition...try shouting your arse off at every one of those game which, FYI, we do...and it's not like they don't lose their voices AND our local stadium which seats 11, 000 has an open end too.....

    So quit moaning.
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    I've sat a few times in the nosebleeds - - they are not only high up but somewhere in Providence, RI. The people in my section felt out of the action for a reason - - we all were in a different zip code.

    Very different from my times in cheap seats in DC, NY and Philly - - -you may be high up - - but you are still close to the action - - at least down and not across so much.

    The times in the lower bowl 100's were similar to times in lower bowls anywhere else.
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    Just out of curiosity: how do you manage to stay awake at soccer games, let alone find the energy to cheer? :singing:
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    Lower league soccer, which isn't really televised like the Premier League, is much more entertaining!
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    Follow up question:

    Why the eff didn't Kraft design the stadium to maximize crowd noise? Other owners have.
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    Ummmm.....I think we all know what British fans do to quell the boredom during soccer games......
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    My question is, Steve Burton brought it up on Patriots All Access in his piece with Perrillo and Reiss.

    He has access to Bob Kraft. Why is he wasting everyone's time asking Perrillo and Reiss?

    Why the hell doesn't anyone put Kraft up to that question??????

    Why doesn't the media grow a pair and ask the guy who made the decision and STILL doesn't spend a few million to at least put up some kind of noise wall around the end zones?
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    Say it as many times as you want. There's more than just those two stadiums. Your excuse is they don't want to put in the extra effort, fine now own it. I'm not the one measuring fan loyalty out of this, I'm simply calling BS on the we're just as loud as everybody else but no one knows about it because we're playing in the Great Plains.
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    #12 Jersey

    Not sure why Kraft didn't go for a noise box, there must be a write up on the design intentions. Nice little read on Allen's stadium, made for crazy noise.

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