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    No Jersey Selected

    Either the physical "tough guys" of Baltimore or the "Team of Destiny that says 'NO' to cancer" of Indy can face Denver.

    No, neither can win against either Denver or the Patriots, but I don't want to face a team that may hurt you or be pro-cancer.
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    meh -- just want to see Indy - Manning.
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    I think the Texans' offense is fairly easy to exploit if you can slow down the run and are disciplined enough to not bite on the play-action. That is why the Pats shut them down last time they met.

    That is why the Texans exploited a dumb, undisciplined team like the Bengals. Virtually every big passing play by the Texans, at least one Bengals' defender bought badly on the play-action.

    This is also why I am fairly confident the Pats should win next week without much of a scare.
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    I have more confidence in our defense now than I did when the Pats played them the first time. That is why I have confidence that they will beat Houston again. :rocker:
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    All good points for optimism, but on the flip side the Pats were struggling towards the end of the second quarter and for most of the third. It took a high difficulty catch by Donte Stallworth to get them out of the funk.

    Also, there were some things in that first game that went our way that were lucky and could easily go in the other team's favor next time around.

    Penalties, the Pats jumped out to an early onslaught that destroyed the Texans will. If you watch the game again, you'll see at least two of those drives were aided by third down questionable penalties.

    Bounces, Texans force a fumble....and the Pats recover for a touchdown. You can't expect that kind of luck again.

    I do not think it will be another blowout. The Texans are angry, motivated and will come in to give us a contest. Ultimately, though, they are less talented and do not have Tom Brady so will fall short.
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    It's the bull vs. the matador. I would bet on the matador.
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    I agree we had some luck in the first game but we were moving the ball on them without much problems at times!

    Put it this way, Texans are the ones that have to step up big in order to get a win...AND we have Gronk in this game! we will hit them with everything offensively.
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    I would be lying if I said I was not concerned about this game. Houston is out for redemption. We are both different teams than we were when we first met. Gronk did not look 100% last week (of course he could have been holding back as not to show our hand for the playoffs.) Watts concerns me and our O-Line really needs to be on top of their game.
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    Houston probably can't beat us. They can probably keep it closer and we can't count on jumping out to a big lead or having no turnovers.

    If we jump out to a 2 TD lead, they are toast, as they can't really play their style any longer.

    If they jump out to a 2 TD lead, they will get ultra-conservative, and sit on the lead in the futile hope that it might hatch. And we can probably crawl back into the game.

    As much as Manning playing Indy seems like a made for TV movie... Indy might be the worst playoff team in the last ten years. They would lose 40-3 and provide no test at all for the Broncos. I want the Ravens to get healthy on defense and for Flacco to stop being Flacco for just a few hours and go into Denver and give them a game. Worst case the Ravens can soften the Broncos up a little by playing their physical brand of football.
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    Apparently, the Bears have received permission to interview the Texans OC. If that happens this week, that could be a distraction for them, maybe...
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    Your right both teams are different from the last time they played, Houston got worse.
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    As did NE....
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    How so? The only thing New England is guilty of is playing the last month with pretty much a vanilla gameplan...
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    Why don't you tell us all how NE is now worse. Even though their the healthiest they've been all season, and peaking at the most important time.
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    Let's see how many hits Watt gets on Brady before we celebrate too hard about how little of a beating the Pats will take.

    But yeah -- I didn't want to see Baltimore again.
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    They went from the top to a little bit lower. I didn't say as bad as HOU but they did drop off after that game.
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    This is an interesting point but should not be overstated too much. The came out guns blazing vs HOU. Had a bit of a letdown vs SF. Were disinterested vs JAX. However they played very hard vs MIA with as you point out a pretty light gameplan.

    Two weeks to rest. In playoff mode. Still starving for the ultimate...

    The pedal is to the metal now with nothing to be left on the field.
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    IMO the Miami game holds no weight. Yes, we played well, but it was against a team that was only thinking of getting on with their off season.
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    how are they going to stop hernandez, welker, gronk, lloyd, and ridley?

    nevermind Brady at QB???

    If the patriots don't turn the ball over 3 times.. They kill them.
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    Schaub doesn't worry me one bit. He didn't look good the first time the Pats played them and he didn't look good yesterday. Stop Foster, which the Pats will be able to, and the game should be fairly simple. Just protect Brady and stay clear of injuries for the remaining playoff and SB run.
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    If we can have the same D personnel in this game (plus a couple of others who have come back since then), I will feel good about this game. We have the same O (with a couple of others who have come back since then), so I have less worry on this side of the ball. Our destiny for this season hinges upon the health of the defense - we know they are good enough - we need to know if they are healthy enough.
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    Can't say that anyone gets a warm fuzzy getting ready to play a team with a QB named Luck who wears a Horseshoe on his helmet....:confused2:
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    Or finishing at .500.
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    Worst possible Divisional Round matchup we could have gotten. The Texans were the team I really didn't want to see again. Sure they choked bigtime down the stretch and Schaub is no Manning, but I firmly believe they are the 2nd best team in the AFC tournament, especially if you take Denver's HFA away.

    In spite of the pre-game talk and hype, in December the Texans obviously weren't ready to play us. This time they will be and should know everything NOT to do. Nobody in the Pats organization [nor our fans for that matter] should be remotely looking past Houston at this point.
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    In their past four games which were against Indy (twice), Minny and Cincy the Texans are averaging 16.2 PPG on offense and allwoing 20.2 PPG on defense. That does not sound like a team that is playing like the 2nd best team in the AFC. They completely dominated the Bengals yesterday and were an Andy Dalton overthrow to AJ Green away from losing.

    They have scored over 20 points once in that span and that was the first game against the Colts where they scored 29. In week 17 against the Colts with HFA on the line they go into and Indy and lay a turd only scoring 16 points.

    This game will be closer than the last game, but NE still wins this game by 10+.
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    7 of those were because of a blocked punt returned for a TD and they only scored one Offensive TD in that game. Made 5 fields goals.
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    I cannot speak for the organization, but something tells me they will not overlook anyone. As for the fans, some will; some will not. This game has become more difficult for the Texans, for no other reason than the return of Gronk. This game becomes more difficult for us depending upon the health of key guys on our D. Spikes, Dennard, and Talib have had lots of rest - so my hopes are high. Of course, I have no idea about the severity of the injuries. Our O will be more potent than the first meeting.
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    Because when those fans look past the oppoenent the impact is devastating.:rolleyes:
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    I believe during this stretch they have only had 4 legit offensive TD. While Graham has made 14 FG
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    Another interesting note. The Texans and Ravens were the only teams who entered the playoffs allowing more points than they scored over their final four games.

    The Ravens were a -1.7 and the Texans were a -4 during that span.
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