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Why doesn't anyone smack the QB in the Wildcat formation?


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Me too. Since we've demonstrated time and again this season with more than just Miami that we simply can't handle the Wildcat formation why not accept reality and just flatten Penny's girly mon scrawney tail outa the game? Works for me.

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You send one of your LBs out to take on Penny and they will get hurt before Penny does.

Isn't Chad a 5th degree black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?
 
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You send one of your LBs out to take on Penny and they will get hurt before Penny does.

Isn't Chad a 5th degree black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?

The guy has made a career outa geting injured. Let's help him be consistent Sunday.
 
So you suggest the Pats block him into submission?

They did it to Marshall Faulk and Brian Westbrook...it's a rough game man.

That said, it's a horrible strategy and makes no schematic sense, but for argument's sake getting smacked all game can be mentally draining.
 
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Sounded like you wanted to tackle him.

So you suggest the Pats block him into submission?

I guess we'll see. regardless it's a must win for the pats.
 
This was mentioned in a couple of other threads and I'm betting BB goes for it this time:D Get that wildcat OFF the field.
LOL if the pats cant stop the wildcat offense it will be a very long day.
 
The most important part is making sure the first or second defender wraps up the guy with the ball.
 
This was asked of Belichick and Reiss has the answer as #1 in his blog here :

Belichick talks Wildcat - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

And that answer is typical of the bend-but-don't-break, passionless defensive philosophy under which we've suffered for the last 3-1/2 seasons.

If I'm a DB, and I see NoodleArm lined-up across me, I am going to Blow His Azz Up...legally, of course. Remember NEP v. Faulk, Marshall in SB 36? That's what I want to see.
 
Per Reiss, BB says no one wastes time hitting the QB in the Wildcat because you are already one defender short when the RB takes the snap. The thinking being that in a regular running play, once the QB hands off, he's out of the play (flea-flickers not an issue?), and there are 11 defenders for 10 on offense. In the Wildcat, it's 11 on 11. A case can still be made for smacking the QB, in that all that is required is to chip the QB, negating his timing, in the event that the plan of the play is a wide-out screen to the QB and subsequent pass by him. Even forcing the QB to move off his mark can be enough to throw off a pass to him by the RB. Then, the OLB or CB with that assignment can trail the play or cover a potential cut-back by the runner. IMO, a more aggressive approach to the QB when he's on an island in the Wildcat can pay dividends, independent of the satisfaction derived from smacking the SOB around.
 
the ravens effectively handled the wildcat...so there must be some way for it. We are bad tackling team at times which makes it a bigger issue.normally we have solid tacklers but too many hitters now like sanders,merriweather.
 
So, I don't have any experience in defending "wildcat" formations, but I did learn a little bit about defending the single wing and the flexbone. It utilizes wingbacks a "fullback" and has the option of having a quarterback on the field. Which the wildcat is nothing more than a derivative of. The premise of the flexbone is to set up the triple option and to makeup for a lack of a throwing qb. The single wing is more of a sweep heavy offense. What it ultimately boils down to is a lot of single-read options using a lot of motion with a direct snap to the tailback (or for the sake of formation-based nomenclature the fullback).

The bread and butter of this formation is a strong side single read option behind the backside guard on a pull. If the read is to the outside, the backside wingback takes the handoff from the fullback and his the edge ASAP. If the inside lane is there, the fullback keeps the ball and follows his pulling guard through the hole created by two downblocks on the play side of the formation.

In football, when you hear the phrase "the job of the runningback is to beat one guy" it is telling you there is a mismatch in personell. Typically, when the quarterback must deliver the ball to a specialist, the defense is playing 11, the offense 10. By putting the ball directly in the hands of a running back with the option running off of this gun-snap you force the defense to play you head up 11 on 11. If you execute your blocks, you can take advantage of this. If you put a non-mobile quarterback on the field (which has happened to me in college) you are coached to leave the qb alone unless you read pass block off of the linemen. The logic is that you regain a freed defender and restore the natural balance to the game. If you were to devote a guy to smacking the QB around, all you would do is waste a defender that could be better allocated. Not sure if this is how it is coached in the pros but in college this is how I gameplanned and those were the reads that I took while defending it from the inside linebacker position. Now that I got through with that rant, watch Bill talk about how important smothering the QB is...nothing like a hefty dose of e-embarassment!

I see your point but what if they run away from the QB's side and the defender is completely removed from the play, why not bust the QB in the chops. I agree there is no point devoting a player to doing it but if you're a CB/S/LB and theres no way you're making the play why not just take a free shot at the QB it made me sick to see Favre running around in our secondary without taking a shot to the face.
 
I see your point but what if they run away from the QB's side and the defender is completely removed from the play, why not bust the QB in the chops. I agree there is no point devoting a player to doing it but if you're a CB/S/LB and theres no way you're making the play why not just take a free shot at the QB it made me sick to see Favre running around in our secondary without taking a shot to the face.

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The Qb in the wild cat is not playing QB but switching to WR, you can hit him within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, but after he is 5 yards down field you can't hit him, that would be pass interference?

I agree with popping him at the line, I just don't see it as a free shot.
 
According to B's response to Reiss's question, it's a foregone conclusion to think that the Pats would try this. Somehow I think a guy like BB will have something to counter the Wildcat formation this weekend. That being said it would be nice to see Chad have to tussle with one of our LB a few times.
 
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