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Why does everyone think getting to the SB is easier now?

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  1. pats1

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    The people who think we have a better run to the Super Bowl need to get a clue.

    First, we play a Jacksonville team that we haven't seen in over 2 years. We might have a short week to prepare.

    Then, we most likely have to travel to Indy and face a shaky Indy team coming off a bye week and a few rest-the-starters games. I'll give that one to this case. But also remember the Pats will have to gain momentum as well, and facing Indy later when the Pats have built more momentum will help.

    Then, we have a sliver of a chance to host the AFC Championship game, and rather we would most likely have to go to Denver @ Mile High. Not fun.


    Or...


    We first play Pittsburgh, who we've knocked around over the past few years, especially in the playoffs. BB is 18-2 since 2001 facing a team for the second time in the same year, and the Steelers have the same starters as the week 3 matchup. A possible shorter week can be spent to less getting used to the opponent and more towards fine tuning things that we haven't done right.

    Then, we most likely go to Denver, coming off a bye, with an erratic Jake Plummer who hasn't played since before Christmas.

    Then, we have a twice as good of a chance to host the AFC Championship game, but if not, we most likely travel to Indy. That's going to be tough.
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    It Is What It Is - 3 games in 13 days is a possibility if we play in Saturday, do you rest starters to focus on the goal of winning out in the playoffs, or do you go all out in a relativly meaningless game?

    I hope to make time to watch tape to assess the reserve's play against Miami's starters....there is value to be had from the approach BB chose. Of course, we'er all smarter then BB when it comes to winning Super Bowls - which makes us perfect broadcast announcers for the new F2P feetball network! :)
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    Took the word out of my mouth. I will admit that during the game I had a bad feeling about playing the back ups. But looking at the big picture, it's what we had to do.

    So, "getting a clue" involves looking at the big picture.
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    It was going to be tough either way. But unless we end up playing the #3 seed in the AFCC game, this does make it just a tiny bit easier. Regardless, it's a tough, long road from here.
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    I'm not really attacking the resting of starters right here, I'm just wondering why people wanted the Pats to sit down beacuse they thought there would be an easier playoff schedule if they did.

    That isn't the case. Period.
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    Big deal that we haven't played Jacksonville in 2 whole seasons. They are coached by the same guy, have the same systems on both sides of the ball, and right now have a QB controversy.

    And whether we were the #3 seed or the #4 seed we will most likely still go to Denver if we win our first playoff game. There is no bigger mismatch on paper right now than the Steelers and Bengals next week. The Steelers are red hot and the Bengals are collapsing. Pittsburgh went into Cincy once and embarassed them and are probably going to do the same thing again. The Bengals are in turmoil. Palmer is hurting, the defense is getting pushed all over the field, and they have zero playoff expereince. I will be stunned if Cincy wins that game.
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    I am so glad we don't have to play Pittsburgh next week. Let CIN deal with them, which is why they didn't want to win any more than the Patriots did.

    Bob G
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    I am glad we don't have to face Pitt.

    I don't mind having another physical based team like us going around and slapping the finesse teams around. I think the Bengals were hoping we won today so they could face Jacksonville.
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    Jax is a win. Period.

    Indy will not have played a meaningful game in 5 or 6 weeks. I'd rather take them then than after a battle-test game vs. Pitt or whomever they would've played.
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    By the way, it turns out Jax hasn't played US in two years, either. Weird.
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    who's the iron?

    a single-elimination SB "tournament", as a certain tuna calls it, is supposed to be hard.
    pittsburgh thru denver to the Championship sounds like a fair test.
    jacksonville thru the dolts to denver sounds worthy, too.
    but where's the real "iron" in the AFC?
    where's the hardcore defense that chews up QBs?
    every one of those teams is beatable, has flaws. none of them is as scary as pittsburgh was in the '04 playoffs.
    altho the AFC is certainly the superior conference, moving to the SB is definitely possible. IF our boys can get back to their relentless selves. if they can't, we'll be watching somebody else on SB sunday.
    just lke every year, you can't half-ass your way to the Super Bowl. ya gotta beat SOMEBODY, usually 2 of them, to get there. whoever gets there will have to go thru the two-time Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots (sounds nice, doesn''t it?). if they can do that, thet deserve to go to the SB.
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    Good point. We would have been banged up. But the Bengals, despite their struggles, probably would have beaten Jax, which means Denver would have been our round 2 opponent.
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    * Well stay under the bed then -:) I really don't understand the fear of Pitts. And claiming that the Pats didn't try to win, even with backups playing is ridicluous. If you think the Patriots were trying to avoid Pitts, then the Patriots are losers. The Pats, if they have to play Saturdays game, would play 3 games in 13 days. There's also some history that teams do better that have the bye week. Of course theere are the better teasm also. If you think the Patriots didn't want to win today, then you think they don't have much confidence and are chicken. I don't.
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    "Fear of Pitts" may be a factor, but the thing I look at is what they are capable of against other teams. I'm confident that the Pats can out game plan Cowher's team, but that team can really play hardnosed football and whomever else they play will be challenged to play a full game. I'm comfortable beating their sorry behinds later rather than sooner. :rocker:
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    Pittsburgh could always come back to New England

    Let's say Pitt wins @ Cincy, @ Indy

    Let's say NWE beats JAX and "upsets" Denver @ MH.

    Then it would come down to Pitt @ NWE Jan 22 in the AFC Championship game.

    We should be thankful for making it back to the tournament and we were strong enough to take care of our division.
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    let's not take the Jags for granted. They are a good team.

    But, I think playing them on a Jan night at the Razor gives us an advantage. And, if Cincy does win, then we play the Colts in Indy,if we win. I like that better than playing Denver in Denver. If we have to go to Denver the next week, so be it.
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    We'd better watch it

    Let's hope the media isn't repeating all this nonsense about how we'd "LIKE" to play Jacksonville! The Jags will cover their BBs (and I don't mean Bill Belichicks) with it.
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    Enlisting the Allmighty...

    As the good book (& CSNY!) says.. "There is a time to every place in heaven".

    I would want to play the physical Steelers when I had a proper amount of time to heal after I beat them. I suggest the AFCCG in Foxboro with two weeks to prepare to play the triple AAA minor league NFC club in the Superbowl.

    And if the Steelers beat Cincy which I suspect, and then lose but beat up the Colts, that's when I'd like to play the ponies...

    Bill seems to be getting right with the Almighty too, for this Superbowl push. First enlisting Flutie and his "Hail Mary" and then adding the "Drop kick me Jesus...", as well.

    Pardon the heavenly puns & aliteration.
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    Being on the Bengal message boards, they feel they will have no problem with us...regardless of the fact they are limping into to the playoffs.. They feel that Carson Palmer is a clone of Peyton Manning and will have no problem with us. I personally wanted to play your team first...we are finally healthy and playing better than we have anytime this year.....just like you!
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    it's not about Jax

    it's about how The Patriots play.
    it doesn't matter who's in front of our boys.
    if The Patriots play well we will win.
    it's that simple.
    each team in the playoffs can/could beat us, BUT there is not a team in the AFC that will beat us if we play well.
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    Fear of Playing a team has NOTHING to do with BB's strategic planning.

    But if there is an ADVANTAGE in playing one team instead of another,
    then I have NO doubt whatsoever that BB would know it and go for it.
    Someday maybe he'll tell all in a book.

    One possible line of thought is the next game mentality.
    The goal is to win the next game or there are No games after that.
    So if you had a choice to play two teams which team would you choose?
    You would logically choose the team you can match up best against
    because the goal is to WIN THE NEXT GAME.

    So forget the fear thing, that's for losers, which team do the PATs match up
    best against .... Steelers or Jaguars? and Why?
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    Interesting to look at your view point, knock off the defending champion early. I presume this is in anticipation of facing a tougher team as they advance in the playoffs - whereas the Colts usually get worse as the pressure increases?

    The education around here may be esoteric (to quote from the legendary f2p), but it's always fun.
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    IMHO

    1) JAX shouldn't be overlooked. However, there are certainly the worst of the six, and certainly worse than PITT.

    2) Playing JAX in the cold is better than playing PITT in the cold.

    3) PITT has a better chance of winning two games than JAX, thus giving the possibility of a second home playoff game gainst PITT.
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    I stand corrected. Who on CSNY were Byrds?
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    Crosby. Not CSNY members were McGuinn and MacGuire, ever famous for the line "McGuinn and MacGuire were still a getting higher in LA you know that that's that" in the Mamas and Papas (John Philips) song.
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    Stop saying this!

    Stop saying this!
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    Pats tried their best to win that game until the 2 pt "attempt" by Cassel. Bill would have been stoked if his B & C team could have pulled it off IN REGULATION but there was no way he was going into OT for nothing. Why wouldn't you insert Flutie for the 2 instead of calling that lame corner route. Cassel didn't even come near the target.

    He really had to have liked the way the guys played hard and executed fairly well and almost beat their A squad. Good enough...lets wrap this up and hit the meetings for Jax. Doesn't make him a bad guy - just wickid smaht.
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    I did, and this is why

    I think Pitt can beat Cinci and will at least beat up INdy physically.

    I like playing Florida teams in Jan at home, especially with Leftwich still hurting.

    It gives us on more day to prepare for Denver. Denver is good, but Indy is better.

    If we would have won Sunday and not have reached the SB we would have drafted 28, we know draft 22.

    Pitt has a chance to beat Indy, thenthe championship game is at Foxboro.
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    Well said, it doesn't matter who we play or when we play them. They are all good teams and if we don't play well every minute of every game the season will be over.

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