I've never engaged in a circular argument....but I see it going on here on this board everyday. What strikes me is the consistency in which our more liberal members engage in it. I see them argue a point, then another and another without really getting anywhere. It's useless as far as I can see, but that doesn't stop it from happending. It reminded me of a phone call I made to Chrysler corp Wednesday. I called their customer care dept to get the address so I could file a consumer complaint with the MA AG. I asked for their address and the woman said, "if you send it to our corp. office, it will never get to us". So I said, "them give me your dept's address". To which she replied, "let me connect you to a customer care representative". I said, "no, just give me your address" And she said, "I can give you our corp. office address if you like" ME: "But you said it will never get to you" Chrysler: "Let me connect you to a customer care representative" Me: No fukkn thanks a-hole...but I know YOUR personal home address!! The above actually happened this past Wednesday.