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  1. PonyExpress

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    BB may be running up the score as a way of mocking the members of the competition committee who foisted these absurd rule changes favoring offensive football on the League the last few years. He intends to score so many points, pass for so many TDs, until it becomes obvious that the passing rules need to be readjusted in order to stop the Pats, back to the kind of football BB actually favors: smashmouth defensive collision warfare, the way the game ought to be played.
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    I don't really understand the "running up the score" stuff. When the other coach agrees to stop trying to score, that's when we will.

    The Pats scored only 7 points in the second half. How is that running up the score?

    The only place they could be accused of it was at the end of the first half, when they scored a TD to get to 42. But who ever heard of running up the score in the first half? We had a team with a demoralized defense that looked prime to let us walk in the end zone. You want to not take that? With 30 freaking minutes left in the game?
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    The first half is fair game. You score score and score some more. As if you were Tom Brady and supermodels were going out of style.
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    Because he understands football plain and simple. Why sit on a lead and let the other team potentially come back. I wish the Skins would learn a 14 point lead at halftime is not safe.(both games we lost we were up at the half.) In this league you really need to go for the throat just to be safe.
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    I think John Lynch sums it up pretty well:

    "You show any weakness in this league, and people stop fearing you," said veteran safety John Lynch. "The nature of this league is scoreboard..."

    He was talking about the Broncos but I think it is exactly why the Pats want to win big every week. If a team averaging 23 points "knows" they have to score at least 35 points to win, it affects their preparation, gameplan and play-calling.

    The Pats are feared right now by everyone except Indy (and even they might have some nagging doubts as well). Psychological warfare. Gain an edge before the battle even begins. Thing of beauty if you ask me.
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    Notice Packers v. Rams for the 2001 (i think) season. Favre had 6 INTs or something like that. He came out chucking, seemingly because they were playing from behind even though the scoreboard was 0-0 at the start of the game.
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    You're joking? You really believe that Belichick cares one iota what anyone
    else/does/thinks besides the Patriots? The man is an obsessed primitive being.
    Get ball, score points, stop offense, get ball, etc... The man is Mongo in a hoodie! :D
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    Mongo's back.........Don't do that, you'll only make him mad............
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    I don't see it as running up the score, I see it as securing a win.
    Anyone who feels differently should see the recap of yesterdays Tennessee/ Houston game
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    Why was Miami using their timeouts to stop the clock in the 4th quarter..... teams can score in bunches. Our offense was in easy mode 2nd half anway and the score could have been much higher. BB had a 3 score cushion and once that was breached he put it back to where he was comfortable. The NFL still uses Total Net points as a tiebreaker stat anyway......until that stops I would score as much as possible.
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    Agreed. BB didn't run up the score. He put in Cassell for chrissakes. A 21 point lead IS NOT SAFE with 10 minutes left. It's LIKELY safe but why take any chances? Your trying to win.

    Pete
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    Only a Belichick coached team could be accused of running up the score in a game in which a 42-7 halftime lead turned into a 49-28 final score.

    It's unbelievable.

    The media chooses who they want to portray as heroes or villains. Belichick has been selected to be a villain and these people will now bend and twist facts against him and do everything in their power to paint him as the largest villain they can. When its all said and done, opposing fans may even want to send him to the execution chamber (if they don't already).
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    I agree. BB is one of those quiet guys you don't mess with and Polian and the league have messing with him and the game by sculpting the rules to favor Manning Arena League football for years.

    That's why this season is so sweet. BB is literally beating other teams at their own game.
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    I do believe there is truth that Belichick is runing up the TD total of Brady. Obviously many of these TD's are not relevent, however I swear when we are within the 5 yard line it is a playaction fake TD pass to a TE to be named later every time. But the thing is...it works every time, so I guess I shouldn't be complaining. But I think we might have something like 4 rushing TD's, 3 by Morris and 1 by Eckel compared to Brady's 27 passing TD's...that is a pretty crazy ratio.
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    hey, if BB really is trying to show them up for their rule changes, then keep giving brady the ball...i trust him more with the football then any other guy out there...(in a sense)
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    Evans has been stopped quite a few times on short yardage goal line opportunities. At some point Belichick realized that the best way to get the ball into the endzone is to put it in the hands of his best player. It's hard to argue with that.
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    this whole running up the score has taken its own life because of media's dislike for BB.
    Isnt this a professional league ? Offense is supposed to score and defense is supposed to stop. this topic is just ridicolous
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    This topic is not ridiculous. I consider myself blessed to witness this work of art unfolding in front of our eyes. I merely suggested that a possible reason for BB's aerial onslaught is to make a mockery of the very rules his nemeses, the hacks on the competition committee, devised to thwart him in the past.
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    Like I said from day one in the Pats Chat, the Pats aren't running up the score. Tom Brady does as much as he's always done. Whereas in the previous years, Brady had to throw the ball out or into the ground at least once for every passing attempt, especially last year when we had four #3-receivers (on a good day), now he has two #1 receivers and the best slot receiver in the NFL who catch those same passes and get more yards after the catch than ever before. This also helps our running game get 5 yards per attempt. Tom Brady seems to be doing "less" than he's had to in the past years. He finally gets to be a gun slinger with little stress.
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    It is much smarter to be more diverse. I would hope that once Morris/Maroney comes back that NE does run it in every now and then.
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    I disagree. Brady seems to be out there less and less than ever. Belichick realizes that since we have no red zone defense, and Seymour and Harrison haven't been 100% yet, and our offense is unstoppable, that we should trust an extra TD or two to help us win, rather than having to rely on our goal-line stand.

    Chance of Brady to score an extra touch down without throwing an INT or fumbling the ball? About 80% is my guess. Chance of forcing even an injured Miami offense into kicking a field goal in the red zone? Basically 0.

    When we could stop the opponents in the red zone, we forced them to kick and could win by 3 or 10 points. Now, we have to assume the other team will score a touch down on every mid-field drive until we get Seymour and Harrison at 100%.

    On top of that, I don't think it's just that the defense is worse. I really think Belichick has made a few strategical changes to the defensive goals for every game on account of our offense being so good. He likely doesn't care about the red zone defense as much as he used to. Nor is he going to pay tons of money to get players who are great goal line defenders. Instead, he's adjusting to the fact that the money will be spent on our offense next year, so let's play it that way this year.

    Therefore, let's see what the team can do. Let's see if it's true that the Patriots can stay alive by staying ahead by a wide scoring margin. Belichick needs to see what the team can do. This offense IS our red zone defense for the next few years, and BB isn't going to fight it just to "make it look like the 2003 team."
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    I don't think he's running up the score. Rather, I think he is actually looking ahead to the Colts game(believe it or not). What was one of the key factors in last year's playoff game?-- 4th quarter endurance of the defense. So what is a better challenge to get ready for the Colts sauna dome than Miami heat? And how better do you get the defense prepared than to maximize their playing time. So many quick TDs gets the defense on the field a lot. No 6-8 minute time consuming scoring drives that lets the defense smoke and joke on the sideline, resting and with little endurance - just quick strike and get the offense off the field. 52 offensive plays per Reiss - not many compared to previous weeks. I think the whole effort was focused on building defense endurance for the 4th quarter in Indy's sauna dome.
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    Opposing fans and the media I can understand. But so many of our own fans have taken up the "running up the score" idea - speculating as to the cause of a phenomenon that quite simply does not exist. Just strange.

    If you guys think this is running up the score, I hate to see what you call what we're going to do to the Jets.
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    I agree. This isnt college football. There arent any AP polls, and there are no rankings to determine a national championship game. This is the NFL, where everyone is getting payed to play.

    How many comeback games have there been in the history of this league? How many this past weekend? There is no such thing as running up the score in the NFL unless you are passing when a kneel down would win the game.
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    I don't see him as running up the score, I see him as winning games.. look at Houston- Tenn yesterday, you cannot take any chances in the NFL.. who woulda thunk that Rosenfields would throw 4 td passes in 1 quarter.. anything can happen and it is all about a win. Remember the discussion about ugly wins, and how close they were sometimes.. compare those discussions to these ones.
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    The point of the game is to SCORE MORE POINTS THAN THE OTHER TEAM.
    We are just doing this better than anyone else this year!

    Everyone hates USC in football because they had/have a good run. 10 years agao you never heard about them.
    Everyone hates the top dog guys. Its human nature.
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    WE SCORED 7 POINTS IN THE SECOND HALF. How on EARTH anyone can be talking about "running up the score" when we hardly tried to score at ALL over the last 30 minutes is beyond me.
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    The Titans had a 32-7 lead yesterday after 3 Q's. They only won 38-36.
    Had they gone no huddle and passed thier way downfield when ahead 32-7, would that have been running up the score?
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    Oh the way Glen Miller played....

    songs that made the hit parade....

    guys like us we had it made...

    etc

    We all know that the league has had a readjustment in favor of the new brand of football. It keeps the pink hats coming. Just toss the ball around until everyone is in awe. well, yeah, it seems obvious to me that after yrs of playing the old school football, BB is now taking the gloves off to accomodate what the NFL has been ramming down our throats. A score fest brand that gets ppls attention.
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    wow...at what point did that occur to you?
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