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  1. QB12

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    Down:

    Stallworth
    Cannon
    Koppen
    Mike Rivera
    Sterling Moore
    Hoyer

    Up:

    Branch
    Ebner
    Gostskowski
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    Hoping Vollmer isn't too rusty and gets to play vs Tampa. He needs a couple of games under his belt for the opener. Cannon is bad. Move him inside to be backup guard ASAP.

    Looks like Branch keeps his job if he continues performing like tonite.

    EBNER !! He had a good week in practice with some picks and it carried on into this game. Nice to see him hustling.
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    Moore is 'down' due to not having any safety help and allowing a longer pass to one of the fastest WR's in all of football in one-on-one coverage?

    I'd hate to see someone actually have a horrible game in your opinion.
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    Cunningham is a definite riser.
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    I really thought Branch was getting cut but now I don't know anymore.
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    Can they coach Ebner up to pay SS in the box? Chung's got a wonky shoulder and probably won't be 100% week 1.
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    To my eyes, Moore has regressed.
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    Absolutely. That's great to see.
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    Chung think's he's Rodney :rolleyes:
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    Supafly - has Moore broken up even one pass this preseason? I don't think he has.
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    Mallet was definitely a bright spot today.
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    Must just be you. I saw nothing to support that observation.
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    I respect your opinion, but I kind of expect some different reasoning.

    According to the beat writers he has "made the most plays out of any DB...by far." (exact quote from Bedard) Reiss has also praised him multiple times and even went as far to suggest that he may beat out Dowling for the #3 role (which won't happen).

    One play vs DeSean Jackson is kind of interesting logic. Is there more to it in your eyes?
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    Moore gave up an underthrown long ball to DeSean Jackson on a play that took about 10 seconds to develop because there was no pass rush. Add in no safety help......

    Tough to blame him for that!
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    Bauer you've got to be kidding.
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    Exactly the opposite is true. He had all that time to break up the pass and didn't.
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    Apparently you're in the minority here, QB.
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    I personally wouldn't go as far to suggest that Mallett should be moving up in the rankings, as some have said. I would praise him for showing progress.

    I would have to imagine that last year was pretty much wasted in TC for a rookie QB in this system.

    I think we will need another full offseason and TC to properly observe Mallett for what he truly may/may not be.
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    Let's see if Moore moves up or down the depth chart after that performance.
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    Aww yeah Ebner. Around when did Wilson first play, if at all? Or rather, what's the safety depth chart looking like?
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    He was the #4 before and he'll be the #4 after.

    QB, could you name for me all the #4 CBs leaguewide who you believe can cover DeSean Jackson deep with no safety help?
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    Still waiting on your answer to my question, if Moore has successfully defensed even one pass this preseason.
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    It's kind of tough to label someone as 'down' due to allowing a completed pass to one of the top 10-15 WR's in the game, isn't it?

    Granted it was of the longer variety, but the WR's are going to win some too, ya know? Especially a probowler vs our 4th string UDFA who is in his 2nd year.

    If there were multiple plays or something else that you saw, then I could understand.
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    Where is he going to go? In all honesty?
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    You're dancing supafly, sorry.
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    What question? I didn't see any question besides right here.

    I didn't watch the first preseason game due to living out of town, but there's only been two. NFLN replayed it, but I didn't watch that either.

    I wouldn't personally put someone in the 'down' category due to not having the opportunity to break up a pass (at least in this game, I don't know about the first), but your opinion is still valid. I just don't see too many agreeing with it.
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    In all seriousness, I have no idea what you're even talking about.
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    I'm not sure about these two sterling exhibitions of professional football, but Moore sure did defense a perfectly thrown pass in the end zone in the AFC Championship game to send the Patriots to the Super Bowl. He was there when it mattered.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnMI-1Hykno
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    That's my point. That was last season not this preseason. Name a play like that this preseason.
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    Good days (various levels and reasons):

    Ebner
    Gostkowski
    Branch
    Cunningham

    Bad days (various levels and reasons):
    Pretty much the entire OL group
    Hoyer
    Bolden
    Vereen
    Woodhead
    Stallworth
    Moore
    Rivera

    I'm sure I could +/- others, but that seems like a good place to start. Also, Silvestro gets props for the TD, but I didn't pay much attention to him overall, so I can't slot him.
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