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  1. Gainzo

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    Huckabee won in 2008 and faded fast after that.

    Romney and Paul are the frontrunners but Santorum is doing pretty well in the latest polls.

    Romney leads Paul in new Des Moines Register Iowa Poll; Santorum surges | Iowa Caucuses

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    Isn't very important keep an eye on who wins SC, the winner there has won the nomination for the past 50+ years. The Iowa winner wins the nomination at about a 16% rate.
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    So you don't care who does well in Iowa or New Hampshire? Don't know about you but South Carolina doesn't speak for most of the Country.
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    Not really, since the SC winner has gone on to win the nomination and the NH and Iowa winners often do not win, SC is more interesting. IIRC both SC and Fl each have more delegates than NH and Iowa combined.
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    Do not care one way or the other, it is however great fun watching them destroy each other.. all the while digging up things that the democratic operatives do not have to..
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    No state speaks for the country any more than another. I think that's the point of holding state elections.
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    #15 Jersey

    I was watching MSNBC, and a number of guests were discussing the Iowa caucus saying if Paul won, that would be the end of Iowa. Since Bachman won the straw vote and Paul takes the caucus, it was not representative. I still don't know what that means as none of them elaborated. You are right, Reign. Iowa does not speak for the rest of the country and that system is flawed. The national spotlight is on politicians speaking to a mid-west culture which is void of any minorities and is miles away from any borders. Could you imagine if the caucus started in a bible toting state like Kansas.
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    Politics are part of the entertainment cycle, the talking heads have commercial time to sell....

    No individual state or process is 'representative' however one can look at history to inform us of which states are predictive of national results, sort of like Ohio's importance to the national election.
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    Who cares, the dumbed down American's and the "racists" are going to put Barry Paddle Ears right back in, this will be his second term and with nothing to lose he will go wild with all of his "destroying sh!t" God Help us, even Loveley Michelle will be raising hell she will be eating Fried Chicken, Ribs and French Fried Potatoes on NBC and waving carrot sticks at all of the Batty Dip Sh!t Liberals.
    GOD WILLING WE WILL SURVIVE AND JUG EARS WILL RETURN TO REVEREND WRIGHT AND HIS BAPTIST CHURCH.

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    #15 Jersey

    Hey, here's a brilliant idea, make Ohio the first caucaus.
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    Ohio doesn't have a caucus they do have a primary.

    After the FL primary Iowa and NH will be footnotes.
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    Did Cain keep all the money donated to his campaign?? Or did he give it to his mistress??
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    #87 Jersey

    New Hampshire elects Presidents ... Iowa plants corn.

    :rofl:

    what do they do in Maine Harry?
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    The only ones who "win" in Iowa are owners of small diners and the corporate news media. Iowa is right up there with Tebow in terms of manufactured hype.
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    I think one Barack Obama is much better off for the super-fueled super-pac mudslinging.

    That always happens to the "party in the wilderness" to some extent. But it's a little-remarked upon upside to the Dems' infamous "wimpiness" with personal attacks (comparatively, at any rate):

    If Republicans are better at that stuff, when they're in the opposition, they'll be better at using it on each other too.

    In the past, the "11th commandment" was supposed to make this not happen (although Reagan was famous for calling Bush Sr. a "wimp" in the 1980 cycle -- so there's some "do as I say, not as I do" there.) But like much of what made Reagan successful, the GOP has ditched the "11th commandment" this year.

    Every election's an important election, and we always have a tendency to think "this one's the most important evah." That probably pertained more to 2000 than this one... you can see the results of the Supreme Court coup that's steered the country to the right, the unbelievable failures of the Bush league, etc.... but this feels like a pretty important one too.

    So I hope it's a hard-fought Republican primary, with plenty more "B Reel" from the primaries for the post-convention general election season.

    Yeah I think out of every character on the scene, Obama wins this one.

    PFnV
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    #95 Jersey

    Thanks, John..
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    Re: Who wins Iowa?

    Eventually? Obama

    Tonight? let's go with...Santorum
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    Who will win?? Hopefully Paul, but we all know that the liberals and the conservatives are going to do whatever it takes to destroy Paul as he is a dangerous threat to the ongoing power shift and status quo to the two party system that has rotted this country for so many years now. Paul represents a severe threat to the routine Washington structure, and they'll do what it takes to smear Paul and to create dirt on the guy even if it isn't there. They're terrified of the Ron Paul machine and what it could mean for the future of politics in Washington. Unfortunately Americans don't vote for who the best candidate is anymore. They vote for who has the most money to campaign on and who the media pushes out there since there aren't really any normal news stations out there anymore that aren't slanted with their own interests at stake.
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    Can you, and the rest of the Ron Paul disciples, please stop talking about liberals trying to destroy his campaign? The GOP establishment is 100% responsible for the negative stuff against Paul.
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    Liberals and Conservatives will both try and most likely be successful in destroying Ron Paul. At the end of the day, the Democrats would rather lose to a Republican and a Republican would rather lose to some traditional Democrat than lose to a tricky guy like Paul who is trying to do some things that aren't the "practical" way of doing things for what a traditional Republican would do right now. Ron Paul isn't your status quo type of politician and that is the kind of thing that terrifies politicians in Washington more than anything. They want to keep the power shift between Republicans and Democrats more than anything.

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